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    Nabiri's Avatar
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    Khaien Akiyama
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    This is just me but.. I feel it's far more harmful for children to be taught to be ashamed of their own bodies, and afraid of others'.
    I'm happy to see that more people these days feel comfortable in their own skin (enough that bikinis aren't taboo or something). Times are changing.

    I'm proud of SE for adding bikinis. :3 It shouldn't be a controversial topic. We're still covered where it matters.
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    oh my god, at this rate they will never rerelease FFVII.
    i mean, just imagine how many people will freak out when they see tifa in HD quality.
    and to top it off, she'll wear a bikini when they'll arrive at costa del sol lulz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Rose View Post
    oh my god, at this rate they will never rerelease FFVII.
    i mean, just imagine how many people will freak out when they see tifa in HD quality.
    and to top it off, she'll wear a bikini when they'll arrive at costa del sol lulz
    Well, to put it into perspective, the vast majority have no problems with the bikinis. I've only seen 2 people complaining about it, desperately trying to justify their stance. It's kind of sad...

    Most people these days see no harm, and like someone else said, it's far more harmful to teach children to be ashamed of their bodies.
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    What I find funny is, these people blame all the world's ills on sex and sexuality, but cannot provide one single study which backs up their position. Just blanket statements of "I find it wrong and shameful, therefore it is causing problems." Fact is, sexuality is as natural as breathing. It's a part of our very makeup. Denying sexuality is in it's entirety unnatural. There has never been any society that fell because people showed skin. Hell, look at many of the isolated tribes in the world whose societies haven't changed in hundreds, if not thousands of years; nudity of both sexes is common, their societies persisting, only threatened by outside forces.

    Look at nudist colonies. You have adults and children all living quite nude. You don't see mass orgies or guys walking around with erections, and even sexual assaults are far rarer than in the outside world. Because it is all completely normal to those inside. Nudity is frankly banal when you are used to seeing it on a regular basis.

    You want legitimate causes of problems in society? How about a lack of respect for education or the self, or any sense of personal responsibility? How about apathy, greed and solipsistic personalities, and others butting themselves into others lives while turning a blind eye on their own?
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    A look at the divorce rate is the only proof needed to figure out something is wrong. Why are people divorcing so much? Obviously the foundation of their marriage was not strong. Why not? Many factors come into play, yes, but sexual "openess" of this manner, is one of them. If you didn't have the character to keep yourself before you got married, what makes you think you can all of a sudden be "good" afterwards?
    You of course realize that the divorce rate is highest in the most conservative and religious puritanical states, right? The ones who have pushed the abstinence til marriage ideals? In fact, many such marriages themselves fall apart after a short few years due to infidelity. Sexuality, open or otherwise has nothing to do with it. Saving yourself til marriage doesn't make you more responsible nor does not doing so make you "rebellious."

    Seriously, at this point you are just spouting a bunch of speciest nonsense.
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    Last edited by AlexNiculaie; 08-10-2011 at 02:37 AM.

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    Looks like it'll be an interesting event, may actually log into XIV to check it out lol. And yes, I'm getting a swimsuit even though I'm Lalafell, deal with it.
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    Ezra Guilian
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    Okay, this has gotten to be a little much. While I agree with the majority opinion here that the swimsuits in the game are a completely socially acceptable addition, considering it is for a summer themed event, in a game that is rated T for "Suggestive Themes." I think you guys need to cut Chezen some slack. She is simply expressing her personal moral values, and attacking them solves nothing. Some of you are getting dangerously close to hypocritical territory by extolling the values of a sexually liberal society while at the same time condemning an opposing view on someone's personal expression of sexuality. A liberal society means people get to express themselves how they choose, whether they be extreme or conservative.
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    Etoile Kallera
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    And rule 34 lives on.
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    Livi Fi
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    Darn I had hoped this "argument" would be over by now. Just deal with it.
    Too bad my holiday ends tomorrow so I can't enjoy the event when it starts ; ;
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    Meleena Steelheart
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    Okay, this has gotten to be a little much. While I agree with the majority opinion here that the swimsuits in the game are a completely socially acceptable addition, considering it is for a summer themed event, in a game that is rated T for "Suggestive Themes." I think you guys need to cut Chezen some slack. She is simply expressing her personal moral values, and attacking them solves nothing. Some of you are getting dangerously close to hypocritical territory by extolling the values of a sexually liberal society while at the same time condemning an opposing view on someone's personal expression of sexuality. A liberal society means people get to express themselves how they choose, whether they be extreme or conservative.
    She knew where she was walking in, none in his right mind would agree with her unless he believes in the same religion as her (cause I am sure its a religious issue).

    If she wanted to convert any of us here, she failed, if she wanted to just state her oppinion she should have stopped after first post, if she just wanted to troll then she would go on spoiling the fun of everyone else with her completely unreasonable posts.

    I believe it's the third that's happening here, so next time, if she wants her opinion respected she should respect our opinions first by keeping her comments to herself.
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