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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    On the topic of accuracy, I am of opinion that you only want to use accuracy if you are planning to do Final Coil. As it stands right now, in any other content, you should have enough native accuracy from your gear or gear + food to hit the caps you need for that content.
    According to this you need 432 acc to 100% hit in Turn 1.
    So no, if you are not doing at least a little something for acc, you will be missing even in very old content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    According to this you need 432 acc to 100% hit in Turn 1.
    So no, if you are not doing at least a little something for acc, you will be missing even in very old content.
    True, I will now amend my statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    On the topic of accuracy, I am of opinion that you only want to use accuracy if you are planning to DPS any Final turn of Coil. As it stands right now, in any other content, you should have enough native accuracy from your gear or gear + food to hit the caps you need for that content.
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 03-12-2015 at 11:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    True, I will now amend my statement.
    + Levi, Ramuh, Shiva, Odin which all range between T5 and T9 requirement :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    + Levi, Ramuh, Shiva, Odin which all range between T5 and T9 requirement :-)
    That's funny, because even when I was using my 0 accuracy set, I'm pretty certain I have 100% accuracy on them @.@ No food either.

    Edit, scratch that, I forgot, I also have an accuracy Thyrus >.>;

    Okay, apparently I don't know squawk. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    That's funny, because even when I was using my 0 accuracy set, I'm pretty certain I have 100% accuracy on them @.@ No food either.

    Edit, scratch that, I forgot, I also have an accuracy Thyrus >.>;

    Okay, apparently I don't know squawk. lol.
    Hey but you knew enough to make the good choice to meld acc on your weapons. cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    Hey but you knew enough to make the good choice to meld acc on your weapons. cheers
    Funny enough, even though I have Thyrus Nexus with capped Accuracy, I hardly make use of it, lol. I main SCH for Coil and I've more or less changed from being WHM main to SCH main (even made a SCH Zodiac after having made WHM Nexus)

    I think I've been in Shiva EX once as WHM, and I've been in Second Coil once as WHM (on T9 no less, lol). Feels like a waste almost, but at the same time I know it's best to be prepared for all contingencies too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Out of curiosity, doesn't that mean you need to carry three books?

    (1) The Zodiac/Zeta you are main handing
    (2) A Nexus that's 44 Crit/31 Det to copy a Crit/Det scroll
    (3) A Novus that's 44 Crit/31 Acc to copy a Crit/Acc scroll

    I know what you're aiming for, and I have thought of the same. Just making sure I understood the process right in case I wanted to run the gauntlet myself.

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    No, I'm just carrying just one book and retainers hold the scrolls

    Disclaimer: I'm not sure if this is an exploit or clever use of "working as intended". Not my place to judge, if this earns me a ban please have mercy.

    1 - Aquire a blank scroll from Hubairtain using 3 Superior enchanted inks
    2 - Copy current relic stats to scroll from Jalzahnn using (novus/nexus/zodiac/zeta) modification option
    3 - Give scroll to Retainer A
    4 - Repeat steps 1 & 2
    5 - Modify scroll as desired e.g. I replaced all the det with acc (31 Alex and requisite materia)
    6 - Apply new scroll to Relic

    Congrats you now have two sets of stats for your relic, now whenever you want to switch between stats do the following

    7 - Repeat steps 1 & 2
    8 - Give scroll to Retainer B
    9 - Retrieve scroll from Retainer A
    10 - See step 6



    On the topic of accuracy, I am of opinion that you only want to use accuracy if you are planning to do Final Coil. As it stands right now, in any other content, you should have enough native accuracy from your gear or gear + food to hit the caps you need for that content.

    Since OP is doing Final Coil, go load up on that accuracy and have fun =p
    But yes, missing less when dpsing as a healer in final coil is very nice. Can't go wrong with melding some Acc.
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    Last edited by Aurelinaus; 03-13-2015 at 05:35 PM. Reason: typos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelinaus View Post
    No, I'm just carrying just one book and retainers hold the scrolls

    Disclaimer: I'm not sure if this is an exploit or clever use of "working as intended". Not my place to judge, if this earns me a ban please have mercy.

    1 - Aquire a blank scroll from Hubairtain using 3 Superior enchanted inks
    2 - Copy current relic stats to scroll from Jalzahnn using (novus/nexus/zodiac/zeta) modification option
    3 - Give scroll to Retainer A
    4 - Repeat steps 1 & 2
    5 - Modify scroll as desired e.g. I replaced all the det with acc (31 Alex and requisite materia)
    6 - Apply new scroll to Relic

    Congrats you now have to sets of stats for your relic, now whenever you want to switch between stats do the following

    7 - Repeat steps 1 & 2
    8 - Give scroll to Retainer B
    9 - Retrieve scroll from Retainer A
    10 - See step 6
    ...this is brilliant! lol. I honestly don't think it's ban worthy, and I don't think it's exploitative in the least, just clever use of the resources you have on hand.

    I may need to try this now. Thank you for the information.
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  9. #29
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    + Levi, Ramuh, Shiva, Odin which all range between T5 and T9 requirement :-)
    I can confirm, I miss on Levi EX all the damn time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelinaus View Post
    I do both, 44crit/31det for general stuff and 44crit/31acc for coil and just switch back and forth between the two just costs 750 soldiery each swap of the stats
    My SCH relic is exactly the same as yours. I first made a 44 crit/31 det build, but my current relic is 44 crit/31 acc. I have a copy of both scrolls on my retainers. The stats on my Last Resort Zeta are 53 crit/48 acc or 53 crit/38 det.
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