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    Areku Foxfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiko769 View Post
    I JUST finished my 44crit/31det Zeta today and it came out at an awesome 53/39. In all honesty unless it comes to a point that we cant carry on the secondaries we pick on the current relic line I'd just go with this build because with Adloquium being a thing that exist and you having just a heal that basically equivalent to cure I against a class with 2 other tiers of cure with higher potencys it'll probably benefit you the most. But that's just my opinion what do I know :P
    No accuracy=good luck in final coil where you're expected to DPS.
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    Nazreen Eby
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    I atm have crit 36 29 ss (love ss to a certain grade) 10 det though atm as we entering final coil and misses already in t9 bugged me remelding for full crit rest acc. Depending on RNGsus and my loss of crit IV materia might do more acc or keep few points ss as I seen that with full crit build my ss would go to default and... I kinda dont like it :/
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    Hazel Mimelia
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    Yah my Zeta had 48 Crit 30 Det and I think 26 Acc i have to double check. but it heals for more than my Dread codex because of the det. It heals for 70 more.
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    I do both, 44crit/31det for general stuff and 44crit/31acc for coil and just switch back and forth between the two just costs 750 soldiery each swap of the stats
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelinaus View Post
    I do both, 44crit/31det for general stuff and 44crit/31acc for coil and just switch back and forth between the two just costs 750 soldiery each swap of the stats
    Who actually has that much materia and alexandrite to spare though...?

    That's not a reasonable solution at all honestly. >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Who actually has that much materia and alexandrite to spare though...?

    That's not a reasonable solution at all honestly. >.>
    Not as much as you think, and the second was a duplicate of the first that I simply removed the det infusions from, it's not like a scrolls are started from scratch.
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    Last edited by Aurelinaus; 03-12-2015 at 07:07 PM.

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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelinaus View Post
    Not as much as you think, and the second was a duplicate of the first that I simply removed the det infusions from, it's not like a scrolls are started from scratch.
    Out of curiosity, doesn't that mean you need to carry three books?

    (1) The Zodiac/Zeta you are main handing
    (2) A Nexus that's 44 Crit/31 Det to copy a Crit/Det scroll
    (3) A Novus that's 44 Crit/31 Acc to copy a Crit/Acc scroll

    I know what you're aiming for, and I have thought of the same. Just making sure I understood the process right in case I wanted to run the gauntlet myself.

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    On the topic of accuracy, I am of opinion that you only want to use accuracy if you are planning to do Final Coil. As it stands right now, in any other content, you should have enough native accuracy from your gear or gear + food to hit the caps you need for that content.

    Since OP is doing Final Coil, go load up on that accuracy and have fun =p
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 03-12-2015 at 10:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    On the topic of accuracy, I am of opinion that you only want to use accuracy if you are planning to do Final Coil. As it stands right now, in any other content, you should have enough native accuracy from your gear or gear + food to hit the caps you need for that content.
    According to this you need 432 acc to 100% hit in Turn 1.
    So no, if you are not doing at least a little something for acc, you will be missing even in very old content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Out of curiosity, doesn't that mean you need to carry three books?

    (1) The Zodiac/Zeta you are main handing
    (2) A Nexus that's 44 Crit/31 Det to copy a Crit/Det scroll
    (3) A Novus that's 44 Crit/31 Acc to copy a Crit/Acc scroll

    I know what you're aiming for, and I have thought of the same. Just making sure I understood the process right in case I wanted to run the gauntlet myself.

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    No, I'm just carrying just one book and retainers hold the scrolls

    Disclaimer: I'm not sure if this is an exploit or clever use of "working as intended". Not my place to judge, if this earns me a ban please have mercy.

    1 - Aquire a blank scroll from Hubairtain using 3 Superior enchanted inks
    2 - Copy current relic stats to scroll from Jalzahnn using (novus/nexus/zodiac/zeta) modification option
    3 - Give scroll to Retainer A
    4 - Repeat steps 1 & 2
    5 - Modify scroll as desired e.g. I replaced all the det with acc (31 Alex and requisite materia)
    6 - Apply new scroll to Relic

    Congrats you now have two sets of stats for your relic, now whenever you want to switch between stats do the following

    7 - Repeat steps 1 & 2
    8 - Give scroll to Retainer B
    9 - Retrieve scroll from Retainer A
    10 - See step 6



    On the topic of accuracy, I am of opinion that you only want to use accuracy if you are planning to do Final Coil. As it stands right now, in any other content, you should have enough native accuracy from your gear or gear + food to hit the caps you need for that content.

    Since OP is doing Final Coil, go load up on that accuracy and have fun =p
    But yes, missing less when dpsing as a healer in final coil is very nice. Can't go wrong with melding some Acc.
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    Last edited by Aurelinaus; 03-13-2015 at 05:35 PM. Reason: typos

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    Rurulu Namilu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelinaus View Post
    I do both, 44crit/31det for general stuff and 44crit/31acc for coil and just switch back and forth between the two just costs 750 soldiery each swap of the stats
    My SCH relic is exactly the same as yours. I first made a 44 crit/31 det build, but my current relic is 44 crit/31 acc. I have a copy of both scrolls on my retainers. The stats on my Last Resort Zeta are 53 crit/48 acc or 53 crit/38 det.
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