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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinRethiel View Post
    Arrogant rambling...
    Actually you speak for 1 person, yourself. Quit being an arrogant troll trying to tell everyone that something is a problem for the masses when you seem to be the only one who has a problem with it. Nobody here is trying to prevent anyone else from enjoying the game, get over yourself. Oh someone disagrees with you, they must not understand you or just be an elitist jerk. Great logic there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    Actually you speak for 1 person, yourself. Quit being an arrogant troll trying to tell everyone that something is a problem for the masses when you seem to be the only one who has a problem with it. Nobody here is trying to prevent anyone else from enjoying the game, get over yourself. Oh someone disagrees with you, they must not understand you or just be an elitist jerk. Great logic there.
    You are an "elitist jerk" as yo call it, because you are arguing like one. That's not my fault, you behave like that, I'm not forcing you to do this. When you look at this forum, it's pretty much dead. There are not many threads and posts in comparison to the mass of people who play it. And that many people like you are here, who shower anyone who wants to make this game better for casual and normal gamers with hate, may, on the long term, become a problem for Square.

    It's not a good thing, when people avoid an official forum, because they think it is toxic...

    Name me one mmorpg that isnt a grind. Everyting in mmorpgs is a grind. It just depends on how long.
    It's still not an inherent part of a MMORPG, no matter how often it occurs. Grinding is bad and easy game design. That's why many bad companies are using it.
    Slavery has been a part of human societies over thousands of years. Still, slavery is no inherent part of a society. It's just very lucrative, so it occurred very oftern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinRethiel View Post
    It's still not an inherent part of a MMORPG, no matter how often it occurs. Grinding is bad and easy game design. That's why many bad companies are using it.
    Slavery has been a part of human societies over thousands of years. Still, slavery is no inherent part of a society. It's just very lucrative, so it occurred very oftern.
    Please go read the discourse Immanuel Kant has on this in the Moral Law, then go and read Rousseau's Social Contact on the theorising of the surrendering of personal liberties. Then after all this please come back to the forums with a little insight and humility on why this analogy was very very very poorly chosen. I am actually shocked that someone would actually compare MMO grinding to slavery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael View Post
    Please go read the discourse Immanuel Kant has on this in the Moral Law, then go and read Rousseau's Social Contact on the theorising of the surrendering of personal liberties. Then after all this please come back to the forums with a little insight and humility on why this anaolgy was very very very poorly chosen. I am actually shocked that someone would actually compare MMO grinding to slavery.
    GD! Not enough like buttons so I just repost for emphasis. But for real...indentured servitude = MMO Grind. Ok...now that that is sorted out. Let's talk about loot tables...
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    No. Why? Why do people have to lose? Look at chocobo racing. Sure, you get a bit more XP when you win, but you get XP for every place. So there is no losing. Sure fun is subjective. One of those subjective ways of having fun is brainless grinding. Very, very few people like something like that, still, that is pretty much all what you few guys here are defending. Your personal way of having fun. What I defend is a wider area of fun, so people can CHOSE. And you hate this. Only YOUR fun is allowed. That's sick.
    So lets compare your mini-lottery to chocobo racing. Despite not winning the 10k, you still win SOMETHING. So technically your not losing either, your just not winning the full amount. I don't defend the grind, I deal with it because I want to be the best. There are other reasons to do things than fun. I'm also not forcing you to my way of fun, because you know what, if your not having fun, then you need to just leave, and the door is over there. No one forces you to play, but I'd assume you enjoy the rest of the game, and you've made a lot of friends, so why are you letting this thing bother you so much? Either way, you have cheesburgers in your ears, done trying to explain anything to you, and I suggest others just leave this thread alone, and let her rant in peace.
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