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  1. #81
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    There are some possibilities where every single choice will give you a 15, for 180 MGP. I would like to see one of those cards, just to laugh and say there was no point in taking my time deciding which line to pick.
    My high end math's a bit rusty but wouldn't the chance of that be 1/9! (! = factorial), meaning 1/362880.

    Maybe 8/362880 as the corner numbers can be rotated and the cardinal direction ones as well, or somethin like that. Still, not very likely.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    My high end math's a bit rusty but wouldn't the chance of that be 1/9! (! = factorial), meaning 1/362880.

    Maybe 8/362880 as the corner numbers can be rotated and the cardinal direction ones as well, or somethin like that. Still, not very likely.
    Yeah, it's 8/9! since there are 8 occurrences of every card when you rotate/mirror them.
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  3. #83
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    All value prizes are available before you make a single scratch on the card. The math is incorporated after selecting which spaces you scratched out.
    The trick is to work with rng and try and set yourself up for a line 6. So theres luck and math involved in this but as it stands it's the furthest thing from broken. Just gotta add up the numbers correctly and hope for the best on your blank spaces
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  4. #84
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    I think the bigger issue is that you only have one chance at a Mini ticket once a day. Really puts a damper on the overall excitement of the game. While I don't feel that removing the daily limit completely is the best solution (yet), I also feel that one ticket a day is a bit too strict/stingy (for a casino). Even if the player is only allowed to purchase one ticket, once a day, there should be other ways to earn tickets.

    They could give Mini Cactpot vouchers as prizes for the various minigame and GATEs. The first ticket could be purchased with MP, but have it so players can earn more than one ticket a day. It would be nice to have an extra incentive for players to be more involved in Golden Saucer activities. The one-a-day limit just isn't much fun at all.

    I also think it would be a fun idea if the payout table was different for each ticket. Perhaps they could replaced MP payouts with other prizes, perhaps similar to the point value the prize is replacing. This would add an extra layer of strategy and give the player a reason to go for a sum other than "6" and "24."
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    "Fun comes first. If it isn't fun, you're doing it wrong." -Naoki Yoshida

  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    It's totally fair. Every time you play, you have the exact same chance as everybody else at having that 10,000 prize on your card.
    Not necessarily agreeing with the OP, but I have yet to buy a single Cactpot card that had the 10k MGP as a possibility (i.e. none of the numbers even added up to 6). The most I've been able to win on a card is 1080 - which I won twice. I've never bought a lottery ticket in real life, but I assume that every ticket at least has the possibility of getting the advertised jackpot. So in a vague sense, yeah I do have the same chance as anyone else. But I'm very put off by the fact that you have to have "double luck" to win the jackpot on a single Cactpot card.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkDedede View Post
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    That's actually a good idea, though it'd have to be rather restrictive as well lol. Like a rare chance for said voucher, maybe somewhere between current Atma and old Atma chance for a GATE drop. The mini games would have to be old Atma, if not worse lol. I do the mini games for a while every so often, and you can easily finish a game in 5-7 seconds (includes wait time). I also like the additional items chance, but honestly... I think most people would prefer the MGP. I really would hate to see Triad packs (besides maybe gold pack) or something in there, since the yield chance is rather poor.
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  7. #87
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    Its a lottery, life isn't fair, why do expect this to be any different. Your luck sucks, have some fun, and get over it please. These threads are just plain ridiculous.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Except that you can influence your mini cactpot winnings by knowing some basic math..
    I agree with this I won second place 4 time, twice in a row both time (2nd, 2nd, other amount, 2nd, 2nd), and just yesterday won 1st place. I use what numbers I have and try and figure out which row would yield the highest reward. I lost a few times using this method but it works most of the time.
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    I agree with this I won second place 4 time, twice in a row both time (2nd, 2nd, other amount, 2nd, 2nd), and just yesterday won 1st place. I use what numbers I have and try and figure out which row would yield the highest reward. I lost a few times using this method but it works most of the time.
    The method is absolute simple, but of course you will never win the 2nd or 1st prize, if your ticket simply don't have it. Some of my guild mates and friends are lucky and won the first prize already a few times, while others never had more than a 1k winning, most times below and it's becoming worse every day.

    Those who won are already feeling bad about it, because they are lucky, while the others are forced to grind for simple things. None of them care for the expensive stuff, because they are normal gamers, many with jobs, family and so on, people who like to do stuff like ex primae or coil, but for sure not dozens of hours of TT.

    Its a lottery, life isn't fair, why do expect this to be any different. Your luck sucks, have some fun, and get over it please. These threads are just plain ridiculous.
    Your egoistic hate is ridiculous. Get over this egoism and start to think about other players. It's a multiplayer game, coop, not PvP, so you REALLY should think that way and not only "me, me, me".

    A lottery of that kind should not be part of a game like FF14 anyway, actually any kind of lottery should not exist at all, not in a game, not in RL, if you would inform yourself about the backgrounds, you would know this. They are ruining lifes every single day.

    If it is all about luck, then they should just use it everywhere. Why something like coil drops or poetry marks? Just RNG this, too. Everything for free, all you need is luck.

    RNG is ruining this game. It's the one thing almost every player I ask, who leaves or plans to leave FF14 mentions, that the RNG is ruining it for them. And yes, they are getting over it. By leaving this game behind and playing something else.

    I don't think, that's the goal of Square, to lose players. But, well, maybe I'm wrong.
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    Last edited by RobinRethiel; 03-11-2015 at 11:06 AM.

  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinRethiel View Post
    Your egoistic hate is ridiculous. Get over this egoism and start to think about other players. It's a multiplayer game, coop, not PvP, so you REALLY should think that way and not only "me, me, me".
    And in actual fact, this topic was started by you, about "you, you, you". You were pretty upset that some people won the 10k reward a few times...

    Maybe SE should remove both Jumbo and Mini Cactpots and everyone shall grind the Imperial until 1,000,000 MGP?
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