It's time to reevaluate the idea of adding a PLEX/Chronoscroll-like system to FFXIV

[Fyce]

The main point of this topic is about reevaluating whether a PLEX like system would be a good idea or not. Game time tokens (PLEX) that can be gifted but not sold seems like a possible middle ground and is therefore IMHO relevant to the topic.

The appeals of the main topic of this thread are these two things:
- Players are able to use real money to get some gils.
- Players are able to use gils to get some ingame time.

Even if it will completly destroy the economy, and is a terrible thing to do against the pace of the progression each player must experience, there is still benefits to it.

I fail to see any potential interest in your "middle ground" system beside a few exceptions such as "but... I want to pay for my girlfriend subscription!", which you can already do with your credit card and game time cards anyway.

You started by saying:

Some of you seem to care way to much about where people get their subscriptions from.

Well, if it can ease your concerns, I can guarantee you that nobody care about the ability of gifting game time using the Mog Station, in exchange of nothing.

Sure, it would be a nice little option for the very few people who'll use it... but it's still absolutly not in the range of a system like the one this topic is all about.

[Jandor]

The appeals of the main topic of this thread are these two things:
- Players are able to use real money to get some gils.
- Players are able to use gils to get some ingame time.

Even if it will completly destroy the economy, and is a terrible thing to do against the pace of the progression each player must experience, there is still benefits to it.

I fail to see any potential interest in your "middle ground" system beside a few exceptions such as "but... I want to pay for my girlfriend subscription!", which you can already do with your credit card and game time cards anyway.

You started by saying:Well, if it can ease your concerns, I can guarantee you that nobody care about the ability of gifting game time using the Mog Station, in exchange of nothing.

Sure, it would be a nice little option for the very few people who'll use it... but it's still absolutly not in the range of a system like the one this topic is all about.

That was a very long and passive-aggressive way of saying 'I agree that would be nice option Jandor.'

[AlexionSkylark]

the pace of the progression each player must experience.

Who are you to tell anybody the pace of progression they "MUST" experience?

[Duuude007]

Who are you to tell anybody the pace of progression they "MUST" experience?

He is someone who likely follows the EULA, are you not?

[Jandor]

He is someone who likely follows the EULA, are you not?

Stay classy Duuude007.

[Duuude007]

Stay classy Duuude007.

In contrast with his regular displays of attitude, my statement was positively gentlemanly, thank you very much.

[Tiggy]

Who are you to tell anybody the pace of progression they "MUST" experience?

The developers have decided that. Fyce is just seeing the obvious patterns behind what Square is doing. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that MMOs like this have average time requirements for certain types of content. Generally enforced through RNG which is how this game primarily does it. Pay systems like what are suggested in this thread deliberately try to get past those time gates by paying real money. It has been explicitly argued for such results in this very thread as well. How can you not see this unless at this point you are just trolling to troll.

[QiLymePye]

You, in turn, suggest to your boss that you only work one 4 hour day, then have someone else work your other 12 hours for you... but that you still get the full $160 at the end of the week.

I hope you can see how your logic is so flawed, presented in that scenario - though I doubt you will.

Actually, just playing devils advocate again, your analogy is flawed because of the part that I'm quoting. From what I get from the idea of a plex system, person A doesn't have time to make gil. person B has a ton of gil. Person A pays for person B subscription in exchange for gil. Both "person's" win.

Now in your example, Person A works for person B, but only person B reaps the rewards. Why would person A work for person B but person B gets all the money? What does Person A get out of it in your example? Its a bad representation of what people are trying to explain about the plex system. Its just like solving a polynomial equation. What you do to one side of the equation, you must also do to other side.