It's time to reevaluate the idea of adding a PLEX/Chronoscroll-like system to FFXIV

[Intaki]

Lol what? No they didn't. They specifically asked players not to do it and that they didn't want them to do it.

Oh! Really? So what steps are they planning to take to stop it? I mean, if they're so against it, surely these horrible players buying gil with money are going to have the book thrown at them hard by SE!

[Tiggy]

Oh! Really? So what steps are they planning to take to stop it? I mean, if they're so against it, surely these horrible players buying gil with money are going to have the book thrown at them hard by SE!

At what point did taking steps have ANYTHING AT ALL to do with words type on a page instructing their intent? You seem to think two unrelated things (actions and words) are equal. They aren't.

Lack of enforcement does not mean it's ok when they explicitly said it wasn't ok. You're using lack of enforcement as an excuse.

[Intaki]

At what point did taking steps have ANYTHING AT ALL to do with words type on a page instructing their intent? You seem to think two unrelated things are equal. They aren't.

SE knows it's happening and allows it to happen with zero repercussions or any plan to change the situation in the future. That tells me pretty much everything I need to know about their intent.

[Tiggy]

SE knows it's happening and allows it to happen with zero repercussions or any plan to change the situation in the future. That tells me pretty much everything I need to know about their intent.

Arguing for ignorance. Got it.

[Duuude007]

SE knows it's happening and allows it to happen with zero repercussions or any plan to change the situation in the future. That tells me pretty much everything I need to know about their intent.

Um, no. lol.

RMT and other illicit activities upset the balance of the game and, as such, are prohibited under the Terms of Service.

Because we have confirmed the existence of players who are engaging in these illicit activities, we have taken the actions listed below.

Time Period: Feb. 26, 2015 to Mar. 4, 2015
- Accounts receiving disciplinary action for RMT advertising: 463
- Accounts receiving disciplinary action for RMT/illicit activity: 2,182
- Action Details: Permanent ban from FINAL FANTASY XIV

- Accounts receiving disciplinary action for participation in RMT/illegal activity: 17
- Action Details: Temporary ban from FINAL FANTASY XIV

Players who discover any confirmed cheats should, under no circumstances, exploit or disseminate such information. Instead, we ask that players file a report by using the in-game command [System Menu] -> [Support & Information] -> [Contact Us] -> [Report Cheating].

We will continue to take stringent disciplinary action against any accounts with confirmed involvement in RMT/illicit activity; players should take care to steer clear of any activity that violates the Terms of Service.

They said that people should not participate in this form of real money trade, and if continued to be exploited as such, they would make game adjustments, likely to prevent trading the wrist items at all. (and that would be a serious bummer to those who have traditional ways to express affection. Thanks to RMT if it happens.)

After that warning, anyone who does can be accurately considered participating in "RMT or other illicit activities".

A bannable offense.

But nice try implying that people are being granted permission simply because they are told not to do it. That is incredible logic there.

[Tiggy]

They said that people should not participate in this form of real money trade, and if continued to be exploited as such, they would make game adjustments, likely to prevent trading the wrist items at all.
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Someone already said that, but he likes to ignore inconvenient posts.

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Last post of the day since I'm out of posts.

The utensils to have money are already in place in mass, why is this ultimately an argument because others refuse to take advantage of these utensils?

The problem is those have limits on how fast the money can be obtained. Throwing real money at tokens to trade in game is on a considerably different pace and creates a different type of economy.

[Magis]

Someone already said that, but he likes to ignore inconvenient posts.

No, no but you see if nothing is done it obviously means that this is what they aaaaactually want lol. Even though they flat out say they don't want players doing it.

I'm not even mad anymore, this is too funny lol.

Using the same line of thinking, gil buying is actually good and SE actually wants you to cause you didn't get banned.

[Intaki]

After that warning, anyone who does can be accurately considered participating in "RMT or other illicit activities".

Incorrect. SE themselves confirmed that the sale of wedding bands was entirely within the existing rules of the game. I'm sure you would like them to follow up and CHANGE those rules, but they haven't and they have shown no signs of actually being willing to take that step.

Gil is almost useless in the game anyway

Indeed. And wouldn't it be nice if you could turn that useless gil into an entire month's subscription?

[MageBlack]

Incorrect. SE themselves confirmed that the sale of wedding bands was entirely within the existing rules of the game. I'm sure you would like them to follow up and CHANGE those rules, but they haven't and they have shown no signs of actually being willing to take that step.

I quoted Bayhone above as have others with them saying things will change if it continues to be a hot button issue. Why do you ignore that? But I thank you for the continued debate over this because you might help them effect that change. Why do you equate "I havent seen them do anything about it" with "therefore they must think its ok"? That is the definition of an argument from ignorance.

Indeed. And wouldn't it be nice if you could turn that useless gil into an entire month's subscription?

No. I would not. I would rather make sure my money is going directly to SE to continue the game development. I also would not want to use this as a way to get my own house because this is, in my books, considered cheating along with AFK in choco racing, AFK in CT, etc.

[MomomiMomi]

No. I would not. I would rather make sure my money is going directly to SE to continue the game development. I also would not want to use this as a way to get my own house because this is, in my books, considered cheating along with AFK in choco racing, AFK in CT, etc.

But... it would be? Your gil = someone else's money going to SE. Same thing as your money going to SE. Doesn't matter whose it is, SE is getting the money.