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    Player Intaki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    After that warning, anyone who does can be accurately considered participating in "RMT or other illicit activities".
    Incorrect. SE themselves confirmed that the sale of wedding bands was entirely within the existing rules of the game. I'm sure you would like them to follow up and CHANGE those rules, but they haven't and they have shown no signs of actually being willing to take that step.

    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    Gil is almost useless in the game anyway
    Indeed. And wouldn't it be nice if you could turn that useless gil into an entire month's subscription?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    Incorrect. SE themselves confirmed that the sale of wedding bands was entirely within the existing rules of the game. I'm sure you would like them to follow up and CHANGE those rules, but they haven't and they have shown no signs of actually being willing to take that step.
    I quoted Bayhone above as have others with them saying things will change if it continues to be a hot button issue. Why do you ignore that? But I thank you for the continued debate over this because you might help them effect that change. Why do you equate "I havent seen them do anything about it" with "therefore they must think its ok"? That is the definition of an argument from ignorance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    Indeed. And wouldn't it be nice if you could turn that useless gil into an entire month's subscription?
    No. I would not. I would rather make sure my money is going directly to SE to continue the game development. I also would not want to use this as a way to get my own house because this is, in my books, considered cheating along with AFK in choco racing, AFK in CT, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    No. I would not. I would rather make sure my money is going directly to SE to continue the game development. I also would not want to use this as a way to get my own house because this is, in my books, considered cheating along with AFK in choco racing, AFK in CT, etc.
    But... it would be? Your gil = someone else's money going to SE. Same thing as your money going to SE. Doesn't matter whose it is, SE is getting the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    But... it would be? Your gil = someone else's money going to SE. Same thing as your money going to SE. Doesn't matter whose it is, SE is getting the money.
    Or my gil could be going to an RMT to be sold once again. As it is i avoid MB as much as possible and prefer to harvest my own stuff.

    I would just prefer it not be in. To me it seems to cheapen/weaken the games image. These systems almost make a company seem, desperate? Maybe it's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    To me it seems to cheapen/weaken the games image. These systems almost make a company seem, desperate? Maybe it's just me.
    No, that is a good word for it. Most games that change from full sub to freemium options do so as a desperate grab for more money because they are bleeding subscriptions, or as an uninformed moneygrab which results in the same sub bleeding they likely wish to avoid.

    I still cannot think of a single sub-based MMORPG that is not now worse off after adding freemium options to the extent that legalized RMT would.

    Can you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    No, that is a good word for it. Most games that change from full sub to freemium options do so as a desperate grab for more money because they are bleeding subscriptions, or as an uninformed moneygrab which results in the same sub bleeding they likely wish to avoid.

    I still cannot think of a single sub-based MMORPG that is not now worse off after adding freemium options to the extent that legalized RMT would.

    Can you?
    EVE and.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    EVE and.......
    Not sub-based, it was built around PLEX, barely qualifies as an RPG. Try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    No. I would not. I would rather make sure my money is going directly to SE to continue the game development.
    If this system were to follow the PLEX system, you'd actually be contributing more money to SE by buying with gil, as PLEX actually cost slightly more money than a regular monthly subscription.
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    That's even assuming personalized sales of a PLEX equivalent are possible, which in some games (like Wildstar) they are not.
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