I just had an interesting idea of how Relic weapons should be upgraded

[Chihaya]

I'm just curious, what exactly do you think you earn by spending time grinding FATEs or low level dungeons, or HM primals? Do you get a sense of satisfaction knowing you just played non updated 2.0 contents for the 500th time and "earned" something?

The only thing you did is waste time on junk content, time you'll never get back.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...DIAC-DROP-RATE

Read that, posts like that gets created every day, people are frustrated and for good reasons. That's just one of many tiers of this bullshit that's going on right now, and you are defending it.

I'm defending that it is behind a grind wall not the current method of grinding. I have described the grind as horrible in my very first reply.

Your ilvl method is nothing more than getting a free weapon while upgrading your gear that you are already doing, and going to do anyways. - And I am against this method.

Zodiac weapon - for non-raider, easy content, but a time consuming grind.
Coil weapons (or further raids) - for raiders, for players that is after a challenge.

Seems fair to me.