An Incomplete List of Un-armoire-able Items

[HONK]

We're not allowed to criticize SE's actions? Really? I don't think asking critical questions violates anyone.

But if there were other reasons for their decisions then it would probably be in their best interest to say it openly. But of course most companies don't work that way or don't have a good reason for their actions. At least not one they'd like to make public.

[Nyalia]

We're not allowed to criticize SE's actions? Really? I don't think asking critical questions violates anyone.

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On topic (since posting off-topic is also a potentially bannable offense), it seems a community rep posted in another thread that they're potentially looking into ways to increase storage space in general, though they don't have anything specific they want to reveal just yet about what they're considering. I'm praying for an "Equipment Guide" that will supplement the Armoire for glamour purposes. If they went that route, they could make the new items work with the Guide and it wouldn't be a big deal that they couldn't be placed in the Armoire.

[Kael_Raiju]

We appreciate the response. To me, just seems silly (on EXODUS) to have an armoire which costs nearly 2 mil or more on MB to purchase but can only handle a few items.

[mbncd]

We appreciate the response. To me, just seems silly (on EXODUS) to have an armoire which costs nearly 2 mil or more on MB to purchase but can only handle a few items.

I bought one on Ragnarok about 4-6 weeks ago so I didn't have to keep running to the inn after every patch/hotfix to see if I could finally store this stuff from the last few events. It seems to have been a big waste of funds ._.

[Niwashi]

SE will fix the problem - by not having anymore gear from events

That may better than showing us gear and saying "Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah, you can't have this "

I'm certain that the developers responsible for making new items aren't the same ones that deal with UI issues.

I hate the current issues with storage space, but lets keep our arguments realistic.

It's not a UI issue. The UI for the armoire is already there. It's a database issue, and developers adding new items are certainly dealing with the database.

While you're right that they could have a bitmask flag for each item and store each item in a single, global item database with each item having a reference to each character, and if their data was structured like that, it wouldn't add any extra space to increase the size of the armoire, period. However, that makes a bunch of assumptions about the structure of their data, and the structure described above is highly inefficient for generating stuff like inventories.

Depending on the structure of their data, I could buy that it takes up to four bytes per item. A high estimate, sure, but how can it take more than four bytes? That's a lot of information space. At four bytes per item, adding 100 items to the armoire for an estimated 5 million characters (another high estimate) would cost them a grand total of ten cents. If you want to raise that to a thousand new items for five million characters, it would take a whole dollar of harddrive space.

In the armoire, it's just one bit per item. SE has told us that much of the implementation, while explaining why spiritbond gets reset and why customizable items can't be added to it. All they have is just a Yes/No flag for each possible item to indicate that it's present in the armoire or that it's not. So every byte of armoire storage can store eight items (though that's eight of all possible armoire items, not just items you actually have).

Regular item storage, on the other hand, can be far more costly. Consider a crafted gear item: You have an item ID for the item itself, another item ID for its glamour appearance, an identifier of what dye color is used on it, five materia identifiers, a name or ID of who crafted it, its current durability, and its current spiritbond.

So if they were arguing (as they have a number of other places) that adding more regular inventory slots would be costly, it would at least make enough sense that it could be accepted as being the truth (though it would still just mean they need to do a better job of managing this game we're paying them good money for). When, on the other hand, they argue that they can't add stuff to the armoire because of space issues, that's simply that they're choosing to not make space for it, and don't want to admit the truth, so they're pretending a reason that doesn't exist.

If SE is actually concerned about space issues, they should be eager to add a few more bytes to that armoire bitmap, so they can get every single Unique and non-customizable item in the entire game into it. That would save them some real space, condensing multi-byte items into 1 bit flags.

Another thing that would save them a lot of space (though admittedly it would require some UI work, unlike the armoire) is the glamour storage feature they've been frequently asked for. The only things needed for a glamour are an item ID and color ID. Compared to a full gear item (that also has a second item ID, materia IDs, crafter ID, durability, and spiritbond) it would be far more space efficient.


p.s. I develop software for a living, although in a different industry, so yes I do know that changing the size of a database field or adding additional fields (one or the other of which they'd have to do to add more bytes to the armoire bitmap) takes some work to implement and (worse yet) test for stability in the transition. But honestly, it's not so much work that it justifies claiming it can't be done. Not for a company with the resources and experience of SE.

[Chihaya]

Cmon SE, my Master Rogue's Ring is still not storable along with all the gear in the list

[Remina_Garamonde]

There was a great idea a few days ago about having a Glamour Book that unlocks the gear you have so you can throw out the items once they're unlocked.

That would fix a fair bit of this.

[Eloah]

Customizable items aside, all event gear should be storable. I am tired of having to hold on to all of my event gear, that I have more for monetary purposes, as opposed to actually wearing them.

[Alice_89th]

There was a great idea a few days ago about having a Glamour Book that unlocks the gear you have so you can throw out the items once they're unlocked.

That would fix a fair bit of this.

In an older Live Letter they talked about a possible armour/weapon log, but there has been no mention of it since. I plan to keep asking about it every single live letter until I hear something about it.

[mbncd]

We understand that there are a handful of items that you would like to be able to store; however, there is a limit to the amount of data that the Armoire can handle. With that said though, rest assured that the development team will continue to look into making more items storable with the Armoire, and additionally they will be looking into adding more items that can be purchased through the Calamity Salvager. It will take them a bit, so please sit tight for the moment.

Still no word on this? So much stuff still can't be put away...