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  1. #51
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    Richiealvian's Avatar
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    Rinoa Heartily
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    Could be why we didn't get new clothes this year as well for valentine's

    In all honesty, I bought 4 retainers and would be happy to get 8.
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  2. #52
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    Kerwin Nindon
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    however, there is a limit to the amount of data
    You and the rest of the team really need to stop using these "Limits" as excuses.
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  3. #53
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    Nera Mistdancer
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    There's a limit to the amount of money that customers are going to keep paying for a broken mess that doesn't gets their money reinvested in the things that are needed.

    Do you see what I did there?

    And as someone said earlier, if the Calamity salvager can have them, I don't see why the armoire can't. Merge them if needed, and remove the gil sink, I don't care, but fix it. Stop making excuses to make more people buy extra retainers that won't even fix this in the long run (in before they add more paid retainers and call it a day).

    It has been many months since we started having issues with not being able to store event items in the armoire as we were able to do before (on the patch after the event happened). Not to mention the constant issues that we're facing with housing areas, etc. You've had enough time (and money) to figure it out already. Stop sending the money that we're paying from FFXIV to other games before this game gets everything alright. After all we're paying to play THIS game, not another one, and it not working as it should is inexcusable.
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  4. #54
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    Red Cork
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    Summoner Lv 70
    I'm not sure what I find more amazing. The fact that this is an actual issue (allegedly), or the fact that someone thought this was a good idea to admit publicly. I suppose we can't fault them for being honest (allegedly).
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    "Fun comes first. If it isn't fun, you're doing it wrong." -Naoki Yoshida

  5. #55
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    Edgar Xerxes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    We understand that there are a handful of items that you would like to be able to store; however, there is a limit to the amount of data that the Armoire can handle. With that said though, rest assured that the development team will continue to look into making more items storable with the Armoire, and additionally they will be looking into adding more items that can be purchased through the Calamity Salvager. It will take them a bit, so please sit tight for the moment.
    What they need to do is give us more inventory space. In fact, they should give that to us for Veterans reward instead of useless crap like chocobo head! The longer someone plays, the more space they'll need to use, therefore give them more inventory room for you and your retainters, let's say after 6 months of subscription. After a year of subscription you get a free retainer. Another six months, more free inventory room. Six months after that, another free retainer, etc. The more someone plays, the more inventory room they should unlock for free.
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  6. #56
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    We understand that there are a handful of items that you would like to be able to store; however, there is a limit to the amount of data that the Armoire can handle. With that said though, rest assured that the development team will continue to look into making more items storable with the Armoire, and additionally they will be looking into adding more items that can be purchased through the Calamity Salvager. It will take them a bit, so please sit tight for the moment.
    No, no, no. Please... just stop with these "save bandwidth" and "hardware limitations" and "small dev team" type of excuses. We've been given them pretty much since the start of the game. I'm sure everyone appreciates the work you're doing, but frankly, it's getting more and more annoying (in a way even insulting) every time. Especially when it's about the most basic functions/features/options, such as this one - item storage. In a game that boasts a strong multi-class system, in a game that has gathering and crafting, in a game that has all kinds of seasonal events. Either some priorities need to be sorted out, or you seriously need to reinvest the money we keep paying (for the game, the extra services, the cash shop) back into this game and upgrade your servers and hire some more people. Please no more of these excuses.



    AND ALSO REMOVE THIS RIDICULOUS CHARACTER LIMIT PLEASE, IT'S PERFECTLY CIRCUMVENTABLE AND THUS GOOD FOR ABOUT AS MUCH AS OPEN-WORLD HEAVY IN THE GAME: TO ANNOY THE HELL OUT OF US.
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  7. #57
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    Ahmira Duskbloom
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    Behemoth
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    I know that its possible to reacquire the darklight sets, the i90, the i100/110, i120/130 and RELICS in any upgraded point but they should be able to be stored, and not for gil please. Or, or...how about you make a Glamor system that gives us a "Change to Glamor" ability and it saves the name/appearance of that item for use whenever we fit the level/class restrictions and therefore don't need the Item Itself unless storing for alt classes, then we can VENDOR Everything and no more storage required. though, saving sets for future classes while leveling would be nice too but still obsolete if we had the "Change to Glamor" and a proper changing room that allowed us to test what various items looked like together.
    (5)
    "Welcome to the ranks of the blue mages. However, at this moment you are but an empty vessel--a base creature, weaker than the most ordinary mortal. A blue mage must wrest her strength and vitality from her enemies. Show me your hunger for unrivaled power! This is the only guidance I shall give you."
    ~ Final Fantasy XI Treasures of Aht Urhgan

  8. #58
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    Pterois Volitans
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    Excalibur
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    I never thought, in a million years, that the company that has constantly pushed the envelop in the gaming community since the freakin late 80s would be sitting here telling me that they can't figure out how to make a storage chest >.>
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    "Try not. Do or do not. There is no try."

  9. #59
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    Nyalia's Avatar
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Faerie
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    So... PS3 limitations? <_<

    It seems like they only allocated one byte (0-255) to the Armoire's item list. Adding another bit would increase their data storage allocation by a few megs. However, each item added would require about two bytes of data to store the item number, so adding another 100 items would take at least 200 bytes per player, 500,000 active players, so that's (at MOST) 100,000,000 bytes added to the data storage if you throw in another 100 items. If it's actually three bytes per item number (if they're planning ahead for more than 65k items), then it's 50% more than that.

    That means it would take about 100 (or 150) megabytes total to add 100 items to the armoire for every player.

    Well, I guess that every player has a full armoire and each player only has one character. To make a better worst case scenario, I'd have to multiply that by 10 to handle all the people with 10 characters. So, that's an entire gigabyte instead. 1k GB costs about $50 these days in the US. So, it'd be what, five cents for the space needed to hold 100 more items for five million characters?


    If you take into account the inactive accounts and assume that there are 10x as many inactive accounts as activate accounts, and that they need to set aside the space for every possible character for every player regardless of if the player has any characters on the server or not, they would need space for 40 million characters worth of data on every server. We can also assume the item numbers are at most three bytes long (sustains several million items). This is all unlikely, as this is a very inefficient use of space. However, if this was done, every 100 items added would add 40,000,000 * 100 * 3 = ~10 GB per server to store this data. If 1k GB costs $50, this would cost SE 50 cents per server. There are <100 servers, so this would cost SE a total of $50.

    And that's a complete worst case scenario that assumes they allocate tons of space they will never use, like setting space aside exclusively to give me room for a full armoire on eight different characters on each JP, US, and EU server even though I only have a single character on a single server. And that cost is still far from prohibitive. Heck, if they raised our subscription fee to pay for the increased space this worst case scenario would require, it would cost us each a hundredth of a penny as a one-time fee.


    SE, could we please have a more complete answer? I understand that there are reasons you can't add more armoire space, I just don't buy that raw server storage is the reason here. Items in the armoire have no data to them beyond an item number, the rest gets stripped out. Could you give us some insight as to why it's so expensive for you to add more space? It just doesn't make logical/mathematical sense to me.
    (9)
    Last edited by Nyalia; 02-06-2015 at 01:48 AM. Reason: altered tone and corrected math
    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

  10. #60
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    We will be making it possible to store the master rogue’s ring in your armoire similar to all the other class rings in the future.
    Can we at least have an update on this item?
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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