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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    This is extremely lucky! It took me around 100 wins to get my first card drop from an npc, and then probably 50+ more to get another card.
    The drop rate from npc is really stupid, thats why I never really got interested in triple triad, I dont think its worth it spending 3 hours for one card that im not gonna use anyway

    Dungeon drops seem more decent though, I got mog king from 3 hm runs, shiva from 3 ex runs, tonberry from one wp run. It's weird that its easier to get cards from dungeons than beating npcs
    Dungeon drops are just as RNG. Sitting on 25+ Garuda HMs without a card now. Managed to get half a dozen weapons and a feather in that time. Not seen a card from any other duty yet either, with about 20 of those done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post

    Triple Triad Card drop rate I can attest with fact is not that bad so idk what you are doing that you are not winning cards. In one day I went from starter deck (plus one dungeon card) to having 27 cards, all of which I won off of npcs (I also barely knew what I was doing since I hadn't played TT since FF8 in like 1999). Today I started at around 35 cards and went up to 46 or something. All won from npcs save one I got Ahriman from Dzemael dungeon. Yes, my RNG might have been a tad better than some people, but that is way too many wins of cards for it to be just all luck. Sometimes I even went to an npc and got a card first win.
    That is precisely why people complain. Because you got godlike RNG to get cards that easily. I had to spend 3-4 hours just to get individual cards to drop. (with a high win % at that) The differences are just too great.


    Basically, you did nothing to earn those cards and just got RNGesus to smile upon you. While it could have been the opposite: you had to spend many hours just to get to 30 cards, or to get a single rare card; all the while actually being pretty good at the game.

    Spending 15 minutes getting one card when you dont even know what you are doing, versus spend hours when you win most of the time. Thats some godawful rng there.


    For reference; I've had 6 cards drop in 11 matches (10 wins), and I've had 4 star cards drop back to back.
    In contrast I've gone 30 wins without seeing a card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    That is precisely why people complain. Because you got godlike RNG to get cards that easily. I had to spend 3-4 hours just to get individual cards to drop. (with a high win % at that) The differences are just too great.

    Basically, you did nothing to earn those cards and just got RNGesus to smile upon you. While it could have been the opposite: you had to spend many hours just to get to 30 cards, or to get a single rare card; all the while actually being pretty good at the game.

    Spending 15 minutes getting one card when you dont even know what you are doing, versus spend hours when you win most of the time. Thats some godawful rng there.

    For reference; I've had 6 cards drop in 11 matches (10 wins), and I've had 4 star cards drop back to back.
    In contrast I've gone 30 wins without seeing a card.
    I never said I didn't go a lot of wins with no cards during my attempts to collect. I've gone more than 30 wins on multiple npcs to get their cards and also there is a gap from another day where I went from 27-35. It took me godawful long to get Bahamut, like 100+ wins probably. If you learn a strategy that gives you a high win rate then you can win like 60 matches in like an hour worth of time give or take since it depends on the npc and how quickly you can place cards.

    Also, yesterday when I went from 35-46 cards I had many npcs give me a lot of trouble, but I kept trying, and I eventually win their cards. My sample size is just too big for it just to be RNGesus smiling on me, do you not get that? Maybe others do not have as high win rate as I do, but I am fighting these npcs and formulating my own strategies for them mostly, and I don't give up if an npc doesn't give me the card, I go do something else, or fight a different npc then come back later.

    Just because I happen to get cards at a rate that keyword: APPEARS to be faster than your own (you do not know how many hours I spent, even I do not know exactly. It took me 3 days of doing more focus on TT than other things to get to 46. You do not know my win rate on all npcs I fought, even I do not know this cause I did not keep track), does not mean I did nothing to earn them.

    I looked up a list of npcs and what they drop and formulated a plan on which npcs to attack first based on rules or trying them out to see how hard they were, I fought them over and over learning how they play and which cards they use to formulate a good strategy to increase my win rate so it is uncalled for rude of you to say something like that, especially when my original post said nothing rude to the OP, I just figured maybe she would attempt to try more TT if she knew the drop rate is not that bad.

    The OP said she played all day so I am saying there is no way she could not have won at least couple cards from npcs in this time frame unless she was losing way too often or getting draws, since you do not actually have a chance at their card if that happens.
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    Last edited by Miste; 03-02-2015 at 02:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Dungeon drops are just as RNG. Sitting on 25+ Garuda HMs without a card now. Managed to get half a dozen weapons and a feather in that time. Not seen a card from any other duty yet either, with about 20 of those done.
    You may be right! At least you get something out of doing dungeons and trials and if you get the card its a big bonus! You get poetics, soldiery, gil, light, zeta, items to turn in for gc/vanity, crafting mats and minions.
    But playing the same npc for hours you barely get anything unless you are really good and win most of the time. In my case I usually go +/- 0 so im not gaining anything
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