Triple Triad is the same thing as Atma

[lokinmodar]

If the RNG is as awful as I heard, then grinding matches is the only way to collect cards. If you play casually, it'll take months to get a single card. An atma like RNG should not be tied to a mini-game.

It is not like atma at all

[Pterois]

blame this on the concept of "casual" (and it's negative association) people feel like the gotta burn through content so freakin fast that in a week yaaaa im done, but you also so burnt from doing it that you dont even enjoy it anymore. Slow down people! enjoy the game!

[AsahinaMyLove]

I AM already bored of this card game, Lol..... (and the rest of GoldenSaucer stuff...)
I liked it in FF8, because it was FUN!!

I extremly dislike doing the same thing 1000x for just a very little reward in the end... (mindless grindfest) <.<

...wanted to get Fenrir SE so bragged out...! But after I saw the ridicoules and price for 1mio pts(It was like a big middlefinger to my face!), my interessts on it went to 0% and I teleported to Old Gridania to afk around. -.-

[lokinmodar]

it is content that is supposed to last. too bad for the ppl that rush in to get all in patch day. I felt comforted to see fenrir is 1mil points ^^

[Spawnie]

I don't know what the pay out is in racing or scratch cards, but it looks like the only decent way to grind MGP at the moment. Only 10k MGP for the glam shield.

personally i think higher tiers of chocobo racing is gonna be the best way to get MGP im guessin when ur chocobo has a rating of 285 for the achivement the payouts in those races are gonna be 300-400

on topic card drop rate isnt bad the problem is certain groups of gamers expect to get everything given to them on a silver platter with little or no effort. asoon as somethin that will require effort comes along they whinge like a 3 year old todler throwing a tantrum cause thier parents didnt buy them the toy they wanted at the shops

[Weedity]

I AM already bored of this card game, Lol..... (and the rest of GoldenSaucer stuff...)
I liked it in FF8, because it was FUN!!

I extremly dislike doing the same thing 1000x for just a very little reward in the end... (mindless grindfest) <.<

...wanted to get Fenrir SE so bragged out...! But after I saw the ridicoules and price for 1mio pts(It was like a big middlefinger to my face!), my interessts on it went to 0% and I teleported to Old Gridania to afk around. -.-

Oh, you'd rather afk around? That's....more fun to you?

Well, okay then!

Gold Saucer is supposed to be a place you go to kill some time, not grind something 1000 times over and over all day and night until you finally get the Fenrir mount within three days time.

[Kenji1134]

on topic card drop rate isnt bad the problem is certain groups of gamers expect to get everything given to them on a silver platter with little or no effort. asoon as somethin that will require effort comes along they whinge like a 3 year old todler throwing a tantrum cause thier parents didnt buy them the toy they wanted at the shops

The problem that most people who are somewhat, disappointed lets say, with Triple Triad card acquisition is that you often run into these VERY nasty combinations of Difficulty, Grinding, and Time Gating.

There are NPCs who give 2 star cards, that you need to get your 30 to unlock free use of 2 star cards, who's hands have multiple 4 and 5 star cards. 1 star hand vs 4/5 star hand constitutes MASSIVE difficulty.

Well, as we all know and many have proven, we CAN defeat these vastly stronger NPC hands... IF the regional rules are in OUR favor. Things like Plus, Swap, Reverse, and sometimes Order, can give us the edge, especially Reverse, against the NPCs. BUT these regional rules change once a day... And I am pretty sure that some do not change at all.
This is a form of Time Gating. There are going to be NPCs who are going to beat you 99% of the time, because on this day, they are playing with Random, so your hand is magically all 1 stars, and their hand is, again magically, still all 4s and 5s. Maybe tomorrow they will be Plus, or even Reverse!... Oh how we will all spend a day THRASHING Hab if he ever goes Reverse... But yes, this is time gating.

And the grind... um, yeah... "Atma-like" drop rate is fairly correct.
I got Memeroon's card in 1 try. Got Momodi's in nearly 100 wins. Spent 4 hours going against King, got 7 Godberts, came back in an hour, 1 round, 1 win, 1 Bahamut card.
Sounds like Atma again doesnt it?

Understand, we are not complaining because we want everything on a silver platter right f*cking now. We're complaining because there are SEVERE difficulty imbalances. The grind IS real AND you only get a chance to get a card IF you win, which against some NPCs you will have a 10% win rate, UNLESS the rules that they play by on this particular day are favorable for you... of course this means that on some days, there will be NPCs who are nigh unbeatable. Try consistently beating Rowena with Random. Unless she makes 3 terrible moves, you will not win. But Rowena with Plus or Reverse, you can win a whole lot more.

[Spawnie]

The problem that most people who are somewhat, disappointed lets say, with Triple Triad card acquisition is that you often run into these VERY nasty combinations of Difficulty, Grinding, and Time Gating.

There are NPCs who give 2 star cards, that you need to get your 30

ive beaten 15 npcs and gotten 26 cards without much difficulty at all yesh the npcs have strong decks but they are also stupid lol they make dumb moves which u can capitilse on and take control of the match problem is groups of gamers wanna burn through content in a day then whinge how they have nothin to do

i personally hope they keep TT the way it is no nerfs needed gives longetivity to it n give those who put more time into learning tactics for each npc an advantage for tournaments.. in hindsight thats why they are whingin cause know without puttin in the effort n learnin tactics they dont stand a hope in tournaments

[Kenji1134]

Hmm... grammar and punctuation would go a long way towards making your criticisms of those of us who are displeased with the system feel more legitimate.
Also allowing one to finish their post outside of the 1000 character limit, especially when they end with half a sentence, would be helpful as well.

[Sanne]

Oh, you'd rather afk around? That's....more fun to you?

Well, okay then!

Gold Saucer is supposed to be a place you go to kill some time, not grind something 1000 times over and over all day and night until you finally get the Fenrir mount within three days time.

I agree.

I wonder why people so want to grind stuff.

So if it takes me 1 year to get them all, what does it matter?

I don't grind, yeah I walk still mostly in 90 gear, but I refuse to grind. I only do thing because I want them to do, when I start to grind I usually get bored within a few days.
I really don't understand how people can do things that are boring...

I really enjoy the gold saucer a lot, but you won't see me grind there, I only come there for a nice distraction.

But everyone has their own way of playing... I guess...