Triple Triad is the same thing as Atma

[Redgate]

First of all its a mini game that you do not have to play at all to advance your character. If you didn't think playing TT was fun then you wouldn't be playing it a bunch to get cards in the first place.

I'm not playing TT to get cards.
I'm playing TT because otherwise I have to win the lottery to actually get anything out of this update, and because I expected TT to be fun to play and not "Boy I hope the RNG doesn't slap me and tell me to piss off this round."

[Kotemon]

I don't know what the pay out is in racing or scratch cards, but it looks like the only decent way to grind MGP at the moment. Only 10k MGP for the glam shield.

[Spawnie]

I don't know what the pay out is in racing or scratch cards, but it looks like the only decent way to grind MGP at the moment. Only 10k MGP for the glam shield.

personally i think higher tiers of chocobo racing is gonna be the best way to get MGP im guessin when ur chocobo has a rating of 285 for the achivement the payouts in those races are gonna be 300-400

on topic card drop rate isnt bad the problem is certain groups of gamers expect to get everything given to them on a silver platter with little or no effort. asoon as somethin that will require effort comes along they whinge like a 3 year old todler throwing a tantrum cause thier parents didnt buy them the toy they wanted at the shops

[Kenji1134]

on topic card drop rate isnt bad the problem is certain groups of gamers expect to get everything given to them on a silver platter with little or no effort. asoon as somethin that will require effort comes along they whinge like a 3 year old todler throwing a tantrum cause thier parents didnt buy them the toy they wanted at the shops

The problem that most people who are somewhat, disappointed lets say, with Triple Triad card acquisition is that you often run into these VERY nasty combinations of Difficulty, Grinding, and Time Gating.

There are NPCs who give 2 star cards, that you need to get your 30 to unlock free use of 2 star cards, who's hands have multiple 4 and 5 star cards. 1 star hand vs 4/5 star hand constitutes MASSIVE difficulty.

Well, as we all know and many have proven, we CAN defeat these vastly stronger NPC hands... IF the regional rules are in OUR favor. Things like Plus, Swap, Reverse, and sometimes Order, can give us the edge, especially Reverse, against the NPCs. BUT these regional rules change once a day... And I am pretty sure that some do not change at all.
This is a form of Time Gating. There are going to be NPCs who are going to beat you 99% of the time, because on this day, they are playing with Random, so your hand is magically all 1 stars, and their hand is, again magically, still all 4s and 5s. Maybe tomorrow they will be Plus, or even Reverse!... Oh how we will all spend a day THRASHING Hab if he ever goes Reverse... But yes, this is time gating.

And the grind... um, yeah... "Atma-like" drop rate is fairly correct.
I got Memeroon's card in 1 try. Got Momodi's in nearly 100 wins. Spent 4 hours going against King, got 7 Godberts, came back in an hour, 1 round, 1 win, 1 Bahamut card.
Sounds like Atma again doesnt it?

Understand, we are not complaining because we want everything on a silver platter right f*cking now. We're complaining because there are SEVERE difficulty imbalances. The grind IS real AND you only get a chance to get a card IF you win, which against some NPCs you will have a 10% win rate, UNLESS the rules that they play by on this particular day are favorable for you... of course this means that on some days, there will be NPCs who are nigh unbeatable. Try consistently beating Rowena with Random. Unless she makes 3 terrible moves, you will not win. But Rowena with Plus or Reverse, you can win a whole lot more.

[Spawnie]

The problem that most people who are somewhat, disappointed lets say, with Triple Triad card acquisition is that you often run into these VERY nasty combinations of Difficulty, Grinding, and Time Gating.

There are NPCs who give 2 star cards, that you need to get your 30

ive beaten 15 npcs and gotten 26 cards without much difficulty at all yesh the npcs have strong decks but they are also stupid lol they make dumb moves which u can capitilse on and take control of the match problem is groups of gamers wanna burn through content in a day then whinge how they have nothin to do

i personally hope they keep TT the way it is no nerfs needed gives longetivity to it n give those who put more time into learning tactics for each npc an advantage for tournaments.. in hindsight thats why they are whingin cause know without puttin in the effort n learnin tactics they dont stand a hope in tournaments

[Windklinge]

on topic card drop rate isnt bad the problem is certain groups of gamers expect to get everything given to them on a silver platter with little or no effort. asoon as somethin that will require effort comes along they whinge like a 3 year old todler throwing a tantrum cause thier parents didnt buy them the toy they wanted at the shops

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL rng = effort? yeah right. see what you did there. thats just silly of you. plz learn what RNG means before saying this. youre blindsided one who defends a broken system which only rewards luckers and not effort. you can play tt with king elmer like 1000 times and never win your bahamut card even tough you faceroll him. and that is silly. if you can beat or outsmart an npc you should be rewarded. not because you got LUCKY AFTER A WIN. this system IS bis. i think the only way to get this to yoschis head is like give him a dice. each time he does not roll a 100 slap him in the face. maybe after 100 fails he gets the point why rng sucks and is plain unfun to most players.

[Niwashi]

rng = effort? yeah right.

Well, "persistence" would perhaps have been a better word for it, but as far as the argument he was making goes, it amounts to the same thing.

if you can beat or outsmart an npc you should be rewarded. not because you got LUCKY AFTER A WIN. this system IS bs.

But you do get rewarded after every win. Sometimes you'll get just the normal reward, and occasionally you'll get a secondary special reward as well, but there's always a reward.

[Spawnie]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL rng = effort? yeah right. see what you did there. thats just silly of you. plz learn what RNG means before saying this. youre blindsided one who defends a broken system which only rewards luckers and not effort. you can play tt with king elmer like 1000 times and never win your bahamut card even tough you faceroll him. and that is silly. if you can beat or outsmart an npc you should be rewarded. not because you got LUCKY AFTER A WIN. this system IS bis. i think the only way to get this to yoschis head is like give him a dice. each time he does not roll a 100 slap him in the face. maybe after 100 fails he gets the point why rng sucks and is plain unfun to most players.

broken system cause u cant get every card in n hour?? stop playing mmos if wanna whinge about somethin that works perfectly fine

[Windklinge]

broken system cause u cant get every card in n hour?? stop playing mmos if wanna whinge about somethin that works perfectly fine

keep defending a unfair system mate do what you like. rng is not fair. never was. if player A needs 100x times the time of player B to get the same thing done thats bullshit. no matter what you say. if it took like 20 wins to get a card its fine to me. but 100ths of wins? fuck off. thats boring and stupid.

[MacHorz]

@Zumi: I think its the fact,that it is Mini Game! Why do we have spend hourse in DF to get a card for Mini game? Its just lame. And I hope they update TT soon, cause its stupid to play against NPC who can use as many super cards as he/she wants and we just can have 1? only chance to win then is to have a good rule but I just played against Rowena and rule was "random hand" and thats it. So she always had 5 good cards and I might have luck and could have mine good card but even then it wasnt possible to beat. Thats not how it should be. I agree that atma farming is more annoying then card farming but this TT is far away from FF8 TT. I think many got disappointed.