Xeno's Warrior Opener Guide *updated 2.5

[Gardes]

How about an OT rotation? I've been using this:

Infur > Unchained > Fracture > IR / Pot > HS > Brutal / Zerk > Maim > Eye > HS > Maim > Path > HS > IB > Drop Defiance > Maim > Eye > Fracture | Paci'd

I usually open T13 with that. Fracture gets a full tick while unchained but otherwise unbuffed, then you get a second zerk'ed Fracture to end your opener. Usually I am skimming the PLD's hold on hate until after IB, and I can't parse since I am PS4, but meh. Any serious flaws with that?

Hmm...I've been opening as OT without defiance. Is the IB you get from it also worth the 5 second pacification you get?

[Sleigh]

Hmm...I've been opening as OT without defiance. Is the IB you get from it also worth the 5 second pacification you get?

The IB is unrelated to the Pacification, or really anything related to Defiance since it comes from Berserk.

[Gardes]

The IB is unrelated to the Pacification, or really anything related to Defiance since it comes from Berserk.

Oh yeah, I wasn't thinking straight. Just woke up when I posted it lol.

[Ehayte]

xenos with BB swapped to path and IR moved forward 1 gcd to hit IB.
11 gcds. 4289 pot. Avg pot/gcd 389.93
Pot affected by IR: 2453. Avg pot gain from IR: 122.(4411.9 total)
Pot effected by xpot: 3144.7

Are you not counting the OP/Toma on pull?
1 - Toma
2 - HS
3 - Maim
4 - SE
5 - HS
6 - SS
7 - BB
8 - Frac
9 - HS
10 - IB
11 - Maim
12 - SE

That's 12... An unchained Toma/OP is not anywhere close to as potent as an unchained Fracture, or am I missing something? I'm not the best theory crafter, but what if I did Fract>Pot/Brutal>HS>Maim>IR/Zerk>Eye?

[Ehayte]

Hmm...I've been opening as OT without defiance. Is the IB you get from it also worth the 5 second pacification you get?

As stated, it doesn't have anything to do with it, as long as you Unchain right before you fracture you are turning off defiance before Unchained expires, so the IB you get is a free 300 potency attack without losing anything.

[Izsha]

Are you not counting the OP/Toma on pull?

Sorry didn't think to mention it. Yes, I excluded op/toma since this was for an OT opener, so toma/OP would be bad lol. I'll check your other opener a little later. I actually have work to do at work today lol.

Back in ffxi I'd always do full posts showing my math and junk from my pc, but these days I mostly just poke my spreadsheets then post results via phone at work. So annoying to do math posts on phones so I never show much work anymore. Sorry guys

[Ehayte]

I actually have work to do at work today lol

That sucks, lol.

But yeah, its not a fair comparison then, as the timeline you give (11GCDs) is the most potent 11 GCDs you can get, while my timeline is extended to 12 GDCs, his should as well with whatever attack would come next in his rotation, which would be a totally unbuffed HS. So when speaking about efficiency, yeah that's the most efficient use of 11 GCDs, but is it detrimental to your 12th, 13th, 20th, 100th GCD to not open with that fracture instead of going straight to HS?

[Izsha]

Yes and no about the extra gcd. Sure the next gcd is unbuffed HS so if you draw a line at 12 gcds it's less favorable. But fights go on. At 13 gcds now you are stuck with HS and the other is at maim. With that extra gcd, the other is forever 1 gcd ahead for the rest of the fight so that's why you can just apply the Avg potency of a gcd because it represents that extra gcd ahead for the rest of the encounter, instead of looking at it as just a HS.

It's the same idea applied to holding onto buffs. Every second you sit on a zerk or internal release is 1 second you delay the NEXT use of it, so it's modeled as a dps loss even though sitting on ir for 1 gcd doesn't weaken IR when you do use it, but it's still a dps loss on avg because you delay it. Delaying a gcd is the same way. So any extra gcds you add in your opener need to be avg higher than the avg of the rotation you just delayed.

Edit: the frac thing might work since unbuffed it's jut 300 pot (280 if clipped 1 tic, 260 if clipped 2 tic). Avg eye path frac rotation avg 276 I believe (I'll check later) when you include maim and eye. So you might see a dps fain with an unbuffed frac if you can only clip it 1 tic and get full buffs on the 2nd frac. But if it's clipped 1 tic it would be a whopping 4 pot gain. Prob not worth the tp, but also beneficial in not stealing threat as OT. I'll math it out later when I get a chance, but it's more promising at 1st glance.

[Ehayte]

but also beneficial in not stealing threat as OT.

That's one of the bigger benefits to my opener. Going ham even with OT rots is dangerous. I have taken my fair share of Flame Breathes (even a flatten I had to Holmgang last night) from stealing hate with Unchained/Zerk.

[RandomUltra]

so here is my situation and i hope i can get some help from you guys.
In T13 im losing hate on the 2nd add in 2nd phase everytime and 3rd add as well. I was wandering if you guys could help me out with a rotation that will alow me to keep hate everytime in T13 plus help with the gear im using if you feel it will help. because i will be taking mostly physical damage in this fight i use much parry to help out with that. do you think i should be using mostly all str accesories or no? im thinking of trying to use my coil ring of fending, ironwork ring of slaying, dreadworm bracelet, earing of slaying and choker of fending. keep in mind pls that im broke and dont have enough money to customise my shit like a ballar.

so yeah pls help with a solid rotation for all adds in T13 as an OT. plus any opinion on main gear i should be using. I have my zeta as well.