Thread: Xeno's Warrior Opener Guide *updated 2.5

Xenos is still better. Just swap his BB for path combo and it beats your proposed double frac.

Total pot including all buffs except str pot:
Your combo
12 gcds. 4473 pot. Avg pot/gcd 372.77.
Pot affected by IR: 2463. Avg pot gain from IR: 123.(4596.4 total)
Pot effected by xpot: 2653.

xenos with BB swapped to path and IR moved forward 1 gcd to hit IB.
11 gcds. 4289 pot. Avg pot/gcd 389.93
Pot affected by IR: 2453. Avg pot gain from IR: 122.(4411.9 total)
Pot effected by xpot: 3144.7

Basically your combo does more damage but takes an extra gcd to do it. Xenos is only 184 pot behind and the Avg pot of just alternating path/eye (no frac) is 266.7 pot per gcd, so that extra cd you use to get 184 more pot is lost be just doing xenos and using that gcd as normal rotation 266 avg. (It's even higher with frac in the rotation).

This is before we touch the elephant in the room. The str potion. Xenos puts 491 more potency stuffed into the str pot duration. So however much more damage you get from almost 500 pot of a str pot is just extra bonus. It's going to be more than 10% damage. Probably 13 ish or so. So that's a (ballparked) 60 to 79 more pot in xenos favor.

His is just more efficient. That unbuffed, clipped frac doesn't cut it vs better optimized buff usage. And I gave your 1st frac benefit of the doubt and only clipped the last tic. Depending on server time you could loose 2.

Originally Posted by Izsha

xenos with BB swapped to path and IR moved forward 1 gcd to hit IB.
11 gcds. 4289 pot. Avg pot/gcd 389.93
Pot affected by IR: 2453. Avg pot gain from IR: 122.(4411.9 total)
Pot effected by xpot: 3144.7

Are you not counting the OP/Toma on pull?
1 - Toma
2 - HS
3 - Maim
4 - SE
5 - HS
6 - SS
7 - BB
8 - Frac
9 - HS
10 - IB
11 - Maim
12 - SE

That's 12... An unchained Toma/OP is not anywhere close to as potent as an unchained Fracture, or am I missing something? I'm not the best theory crafter, but what if I did Fract>Pot/Brutal>HS>Maim>IR/Zerk>Eye?

Originally Posted by Ehayte

Are you not counting the OP/Toma on pull?

Sorry didn't think to mention it. Yes, I excluded op/toma since this was for an OT opener, so toma/OP would be bad lol. I'll check your other opener a little later. I actually have work to do at work today lol.

Back in ffxi I'd always do full posts showing my math and junk from my pc, but these days I mostly just poke my spreadsheets then post results via phone at work. So annoying to do math posts on phones so I never show much work anymore. Sorry guys

Originally Posted by Izsha

I actually have work to do at work today lol

That sucks, lol.

But yeah, its not a fair comparison then, as the timeline you give (11GCDs) is the most potent 11 GCDs you can get, while my timeline is extended to 12 GDCs, his should as well with whatever attack would come next in his rotation, which would be a totally unbuffed HS. So when speaking about efficiency, yeah that's the most efficient use of 11 GCDs, but is it detrimental to your 12th, 13th, 20th, 100th GCD to not open with that fracture instead of going straight to HS?