Dear All Bards,

[Snugglebutt]

If a bard doesn't sing they are bad, no excusing it.

Tanks don't always have to use their cooldowns, healers don't have to stoneskin, dps doesn't have to their cooldowns to clear content. If they aren't they are lazy, stop trying to make excuses for laziness. "We dont have to" is just lame. I feel like most people enter CT raids as brds so they can pretty much sleep walk through it.

What a silly thing to say. A lot of bards who take it easy on easy content achieve just as much success and progress just as far if not further into hardcore content than perhaps you have done. It has nothing to do with their competence or ability to clear hard content when they are actually doing hard content.

On easy content they are perfectly capable of taking it easier without having to go full steam 24/7 on everything they do, it is very reasonable for a player to take it easy on easy content not playing a song when not needed or not constantly popping pots or food buffs when not needed...it has nothing to do with their competence or ability to clear hard content when they decide to take part in content that is actually hard.

Pretty sure you have said that like 19 times in this thread.

Pretty sure your reply added nothing to further the discussion on the actual topic itself.

[Accolade]

It has nothing to do with their competence or ability to clear hard content when they are actually doing hard content.

On easy content they are perfectly capable of taking it easier without having to go full steam 24/7 on everything they do, it is very reasonable for a player to take it easy on easy content not playing a song when not needed or not constantly popping pots or food buffs when not needed...it has nothing to do with their competence or ability to clear hard content when they decide to take part in content that is actually hard.



Pretty sure your reply added nothing to further the discussion on the actual topic itself.

Pretty sure you are iterating the exact same points you made many pages ago, to try validate an opinion in which the vast majority think you are wrong.

[Snugglebutt]

Pretty sure you are iterating the exact same points you made many pages ago, to try validate an opinion in which the vast majority think you are wrong.

My main point is the same just like every single person in here has a single main point which is whether they agree or disagree with the OP, any other points are tangents and my replies are no different. The context and content of my replies are tailored to the points others make.

Care to prove the vast majority think I am wrong?

Saying you don't have to play a song because its "easy content" is like saying the Tanks don't have to grab adds or try and hold aggro because the mobs don't hit that hard, or the healer should just stand there and do nothing when the mobs hits are weak.

No, it isn't. If the mobs do not actually hit hard enough to be a concern in those areas then the healer is doing the right thing not wasting MP when it is not needed, saying a tank not holding aggro is like saying a bard not DPS'ing rather than a bard not singing a song that is not needed. Your examples are highly flawed, a bards job is to primarily DPS and use songs when needed not primarily to play songs and DPS only when needed.

A tanks job is to tank mobs and hold aggro when needed, if they are capable and willing to speed run (which is all this thread is really whining about in reality, the speeding up of clearing content not the ability to actually clear it) then they can if they want, that's their choice of which I respect that choice but they do not have to just like a bard does not need to play a song when no song is needed and you do not get to dictate or demand differently anymore so than I get to dictate every tank must speed run all the time.

This threads topic is nothing more in reality than a whine-fest of some people demanding speed runs of easy content because the playing of the songs when not required has nothing to do with the ability to clear that easy content yet the whining has everything to do with clearing that content faster. It is equivalent of me making a thread called "all tanks must speed run", "all players must eat food and use pots on easy content", "all healers must DPS", "all cinematic's must be skipped" or "all bards must use Swiftsong between pulls".

It is nothing more than a speed run thread which is specifically targeting bards on this occasion.