Dear All Bards,

[CatsBesErrwhere]

Singin is for sissy bois and dem rednec injuns while they be chasin you dawn tryin to aim dat poor excuse of a bow an errah` at ur asscheeck. Bards howevah be usin them multiple metal stringed compound canons and they dun mess around.

[Bloody]

I completely understand that this is an enemy debuff, but I believe it's a stretch to propose, when all other songs affect only other party members and even though it is not specifically stated as such, that this one song benefits the whole alliance. Is it possible that this enemy debuff is not universal but serves to provide a dmg buff to only your party? I am assuming this, but others are assuming the "universal" debuff as well.

Again, if someone can provide valid documentation that proves me wrong other than their interpretation of how Foe's mechanics work, I will stand corrected.

And what difference does it make if it's a hunt? You quote "party members" here but it's the same dynamic as in a raid. If Foe's affects only the enemy then all should benefit outside of your hunt party, according to your proposition.

Debuffs are universal, period. That would be like fighting two "Mob As" that both have an ability that gives vulnerability up, but that vulnerability only applies to attacks by them. Foe's Requiem is a universal debuff that affects the mob's elemental resistances period. If it only affected the resistances versus your party, then if we had 3 parties each with a bard singing Requiem, we would see 3 different Foe debuffs on the mob, and I will tell you straight from personal experience, only one Foe's will register and it affects ALL elemental damage the mob takes regardless of source. (Been in raids multiple times where different parties had Foe's up because I always have Foe's up with mages about, and when mine wears off but the debuff never goes away, obviously somebody else also has it up somewhere in the raid.)

All other songs, like someone else pointed out, specifically state they are party buffs, not alliance buffs. That's the key difference that people are trying to make apparent to you. One type is a universal, un-qualified debuff, while the others are qualified buffs.

[Divine_Intervention]

IMO songs are there to be used situation dependent. They're there to be used, not with-held because the bard is either lazy, or doesn't like the way the fight is going. For better or worse in a battle, we're all doing the best we can to get through it (admittedly some better than others) and the sooner this "i'm a bard who teaches people a lesson" crap stops, the sooner things will be more effective. Just my 2c.

[Adrian74]

Foe's Requiem. Use it.
Battle Voice. Use it.

It makes me die a little bit on the inside whenever I go into WoD/ST/CT and not a single one of the eight bards in the alliance wants to play Foe's. Come on, guys.

Someone has to tell them that Foe's requiem doesn't reduce their damage 20%... Seriously... Because only 1 of 10 bards I see uses it, most are all the time with their MP full and it really really reaaaaaally HURTS MY EYES...

[aerialrave]

I think you're asking too much with Battle Voice.

It is true though, there are a ton of mute Bards in WoD.

[myahele]

Please use mage ballad

[Adrian74]

Please use mage ballad

If...If.... You ask it that way... I... I'll do it... Yes...

Please don't kill me, I'm too young to die

[Sadana]

I use Foe's all the time... but why do I practically have to be standing on the enemy for it to affect them? :/ BRD is the 5th class I've leveled so I'm a little hazy on some details and I find myself going "ok, I dodged that aoe, now back to attacking... wait, where the Foe's debuff?" *scoots closer* "nope, not close enough" *inches closer* "dammit" *stands under Uglyenemy's armpit* "ok, now they have the debuff. oh, I'm almost out of mp anyways..." :/ "

I'm gonna guess I'm not the only one with this problem. I've gone to CT raids with other BRDs who do have Foe's up... but none of the enemies have the debuff on them. :/ (and I do have the icons set to show all.)

I've also healed dungeons as WHM and watched the BRD pop Mage's Ballad... nowhere near me, so I don't get the buff. >< (Mind you, even as BLM I love getting Ballad, so I QQ a bit if they use it too far away from me.)

[Werhusky]

refers

Hmm considering T9... you have to stand in the usual range of Lunar Dynamo but if you pop it right prepull your MP will anyway be 0 till the attack comes so you have enough to move out of it... Also barded the derpraids CT- WoD no issues maybe its sth in Final Coil? I know (only on T11 atm) that our bard triggers the tail attack when he needs to pop the TP song (name blackout atm lol). :/

[TheWaywardWind]

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Obviously I cannot "force" bards to do anything, but that doesn't mean that simply being lazy for the sake of being lazy should be encouraged. As others have stated prior, too often people don't even actively contribute to the raid and then pass it off as "it's just casual content" or "it's not a big deal." Quite honestly, I don't care if it's casual content. WoD isn't hard by any means, but boy, people sure do make it harder for themselves. And by doing so, they make it harder for me, as well.
I've stated it before; this isn't solo content. Your actions directly impact how the other 23 players play through the raid. If you don't "want" to play well, then do some solo content if you're not in the mood to actively participate. But don't then come into a RAID and get upset when people want you to contribute to a team effort. That's so silly.

The rest of your post is garbled nonsense so yeah.