Dear All Bards,

[gzuscry]

Crystal tower's ppl is so random with their approach to spiking their own dmg that I have found that in most cases there is no real reason to do foe pluss voice, only if i have have it at the end of boss encounter. But healers on other hand can have that one moment where there is huge drain on their mp or one of them dies so keepingn voice for those instances is much more effective.

And we are primarily a dps class so i hate every single idiot who thinks a bard is a support class in essence. People play however they want to play and however they feel they should play, and they are entitled to. DF is random and there is no assigned class requirment excecpt strict roles - to recover hp, to keep enemies attention and be a dmg sponge, to deal the most dmg. Thats is what i expect from DF matchup, to be in your assigned role - to tank, to heal, to dps, anything other is just a nice bonus.

[Darkstride]

And we are primarily a dps class so i hate every single idiot who thinks a bard is a support class in essence.

I get what you mean, but to be fair BRDs do have a healer limit break.....they are intended to be more support than other classes even though at the core they are DPS. I don't think anyone is an idiot for expecting support from a Bard, who's job abilities primarily consist of buffs and debuffs.

[Laerune]

Weird, I love support roles so whenever I can, I will use those ballads. But whenever I sing, I get called a noob for lowering my dps and thus lowering the overall group preformance.

[Noxifer]

And all I can think of on this subject is that one ST run where we had a caster (forget if it was a SMN or a BLM) in one of the teams, SPAMMING the alliance chat from before Amon to the end of Xande's with demands for Foe's, with caps lock and multiple sound effects in each demand. Even after the three or four bards had told the caster straight up that acting like that was only making them more reluctant to play it.

He probably would have gotten his Foe's if he'd been nice about it, asked once or twice (and maybe even with a *gasp* "please" in it!?) and then focused on actually doing damage instead of just spaming alliance chat. And, you know, if he hadn't been trolling before with pulling mobs and bosses before everyone was at the arena and stuff like that.

As a bard, my willingness to play foe in raids is egal to the tanks willingness to grab adds. Which is close to none.

So that means you'll play foe when I'm your tank? =D Awesome!
*always goes OT when possible* XD

[TheWaywardWind]

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Just because something "isn't needed" doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. Battle Voice + Foe's can significantly speed up the time of many boss/trash encounters, and the point is that there is absolutely zero justification for not using it.

It is really poor habit building to main a Bard and decide that you're not going to utilize some of the most powerful support abilities in the game because you don't deem it "necessary." Don't want to play songs? Great, don't play a bard. Play something else.

By your logic, no single healer should cast protect or stoneskin because "it isn't needed." The only time where it is absolutely "needed" is end game raids like coil, so hey, why bother, right?

Buffs and debuffs, whether or not they are absolutely "Needed" are still there for a reason; they're there to make content easier.

Outwardly shrugging off making the encounter easier on everyone by speeding it up because you don't deem it "necessary" is ultimately poor game playing, muchacho.

[FaileExperiment]

I get what you mean, but to be fair BRDs do have a healer limit break.....they are intended to be more support than other classes even though at the core they are DPS. I don't think anyone is an idiot for expecting support from a Bard, who's job abilities primarily consist of buffs and debuffs.

I pretty sure devs have stated that the brd lb doesnt make sense, and will be changed in the exp when every job gets a unique lb. And brd is classified as DPS, anything else is just what players have decided for themselves.

[Celaine]

I always put Foe up, even if all we have for casters in the party are the healers because it boosts their dps as well. My husband often plays scholar and I know that I know he's dps'ing whenever he can. When Speedflox was still a thing, I'd Paeon for myself for the AOEs.

I *have* been yelled at in dungeons before for not giving a healer ballad when their MP got to 1/2 because I had no MP left from having Foe up for the BLM. Can't please everyone. /shrugs

(And honestly, if I'm having to save MP "in case" ballads are needed for too many raises in raids? Prolly doin' it wrong there, people.)

[Accolade]

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You like to use the whine word huh - seems your whining about whiners. Dont Whine.

[Darkstride]

I pretty sure devs have stated that the brd lb doesnt make sense, and will be changed in the exp when every job gets a unique lb. And brd is classified as DPS, anything else is just what players have decided for themselves.

I'm just saying that there was intent for Bard to be a support-oriented DPS.

[Accolade]

Just because something "isn't needed" doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. Battle Voice + Foe's can significantly speed up the time of many boss/trash encounters, and the point is that there is absolutely zero justification for not using it.

It is really poor habit building to main a Bard and decide that you're not going to utilize some of the most powerful support abilities in the game because you don't deem it "necessary." Don't want to play songs? Great, don't play a bard. Play something else.

By your logic, no single healer should cast protect or stoneskin because "it isn't needed." The only time where it is absolutely "needed" is end game raids like coil, so hey, why bother, right?

Buffs and debuffs, whether or not they are absolutely "Needed" are still there for a reason; they're there to make content easier.

He is right.