Dear All Bards,

[Snugglebutt]

People are using wod as an example, it also happens in all forms of endgame.

If want to whine about bards not playing songs in coils, make a thread about that. This one clearly states at the start it is about playing in labyrinth, ST and WoD and was specific in mentioning only Foes and Battle Voice. All those places Foes is not required, ever...outside of clearing it slightly quicker. So you don't get to clear the entire place few minutes quicker...so? If you need songs you will get them, but this thread is whining about something not needed at all.

In coils it is 'needed' sometimes, trials too but in the examples given by the OP it is not. If thread was made about that (which was not) then would have a more valuable discussion but whining about Foes in WoD...really? Battle Voice is ESPECIALLY not needed in the places described by the OP, with MP regen there is more validity in bringing it up in places like labyrinth, ST or WoD (which ironically was not mentioned by the OP in the original comment) but even then only if have bad healers or really bad players which die constantly being a drain on the healers.

I actually play Foes, MP regen in WoD but I see zero reason to whine about those that do not, the place is not hard, Foes is certainly not needed and that is especially the case for Battle Voice, MP regen is very rarely needed.

If going to whine about something try to at least whine about something worthwhile. I have zero problems with other bards relaxing and taking it easy in there, why? Because it is easy and their songs are not required to clear it 99% of the time. If the groups are struggling to clear the content you can bet that bards will play the songs needed to clear it but when is not needed, don't whine about it.