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    Quote Originally Posted by Orrias View Post
    It's really case-by-case that a VPN is worthwhile for gaming, but having to pay for an additional service to be able to play the game as it was intended is silly.

    It's always bothered me that they chose to lie to customers as to the whereabouts of the European servers, as semantic trickery is dishonest. When you have Japanese server in Japan, and N/A servers in N/A, you don't expect the "EU" servers to be in N/A.

    Personally, I'm still waiting to see what SE intend to do with their new cash cow in FF14 (vs-à-vis the Cash Shop)...
    They haven't been lying though... The servers have always said "EU recommended", they have never said it was strictly EU servers, hence why there are a lot of Americans on them too. We have also always known that the servers are in Montreal, Canada.

    With the state the game was in before launch, I can't really blame them for not spending more money on real EU servers, 'cause I don't think anyone predicted it would be such an success. The reason we get high pings, is down to the awful infrastructure in N/A, and SE can't really affect that.

    There are coming real EU servers though, either in the expansion or later, but we will get it (kinda annoying now since I play with people from US and Australia).

    Like I said, I don't like having to pay that money for it to work like I want, but I really don't have a choice if I want to keep play the game and enjoy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    They haven't been lying though... The servers have always said "EU recommended", they have never said it was strictly EU servers, hence why there are a lot of Americans on them too. We have also always known that the servers are in Montreal, Canada.

    With the state the game was in before launch, I can't really blame them for not spending more money on real EU servers, 'cause I don't think anyone predicted it would be such an success. The reason we get high pings, is down to the awful infrastructure in N/A, and SE can't really affect that.

    There are coming real EU servers though, either in the expansion or later, but we will get it (kinda annoying now since I play with people from US and Australia).

    Like I said, I don't like having to pay that money for it to work like I want, but I really don't have a choice if I want to keep play the game and enjoy it.
    I don't know where the "EU recommended" comes from, as selecting a data center on the character creation/ login screen simply state that it is "Recommended for residents of North America[/Japan/ Europe]" depending upon which Data centre you have selected. There is no information pertaining to where the servers are actually located.

    Neither on the website does it clarify this point. The closest I could find was "When logging in for the first time, you will be prompted to select a regional data center. Your choice of data center will determine the Worlds you may choose from after creating your character." (http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/win/).

    Without third party IP tracing, how would anyone have concretely known where the servers were? I'm not trying to get into a harangue with you, I'm just stating that clever word play gives the impression that certain Data Centers are more beneficial for certain parties, else why would you delineate between data centres that a located in the same place?

    When a player in the U.S, playing on a N/A server, can perform all of their mudras in one GCD (w/ oGCD abilities too), and I then look at what I'm able to do, then I wonder why I'm paying the same price for my subscription.

    I don't know specifically why SE didn't start off with a European based data centre, but as you pointed out, it's most likely to do with money issues...
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    Last edited by Orrias; 02-21-2015 at 01:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orrias View Post
    snippity 8D..
    Then again, all the "NA" servers are in Canada.

    Soo..

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2 View Post
    Then again, all the "NA" servers are in Canada.

    Soo..

    '-'
    I know they don't teach this in schools anymore, but Canada IS in North America.

    As to the topic: I have a friend who used WTFast briefly. Full on VPN service, no trial. It made no difference in how the game worked for him.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noshpan View Post
    I know they don't teach this in schools anymore, but Canada IS in North America.

    As to the topic: I have a friend who used WTFast briefly. Full on VPN service, no trial. It made no difference in how the game worked for him.
    Yeah true. Unfortunately, as a CA resident (we're all dumb yay @_@;~), I'm forced to use a VPN to even raid.
    It helps tremendously if you're a Ninja; even helps with GCDs. Without it, I always had to spam the buff/skill to even have it go off. @_____@~
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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2 View Post
    Yeah true. Unfortunately, as a CA resident (we're all dumb yay @_@;~), I'm forced to use a VPN to even raid.
    It helps tremendously if you're a Ninja; even helps with GCDs. Without it, I always had to spam the buff/skill to even have it go off. @_____@~
    My aforementioned friend and I are also California residents. Yeah, and since I'm leveling up Ninja at the moment, I certainly see the lag & GCD issues for them. They are definitely not going to be my go-to melee DPS class, that'll be Monk & Dragoon.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.