Community - The Most Likely Cause of the Game's Downfall

[Xhominid]

Just because you "asked nicely" doesn't mean they have to automatically bend the knee to give you what you want.

Why are you trying to shame people for rolling for gear they've legitimately earned? Sounds like you're just looking for an excuse to bully people into giving you what you want.

Hurray, exactly the people I was talking about...

I'm not asking whether I deserve or want anything or doing any of that nonsense you are assuming. Simply saying you need it too is more than enough, randomly acting like you need to say nothing and act as if you deserve it is exactly what you are saying I'm doing. Freaking hypocrites.

[Magusrex]

Hurray, exactly the people I was talking about...

I'm not asking whether I deserve or want anything or doing any of that nonsense you are assuming. Simply saying you need it too is more than enough, randomly acting like you need to say nothing and act as if you deserve it is exactly what you are saying I'm doing. Freaking hypocrites.

No one owes you an explanation, feeling you are entitled to it is your problem. Do you want to know if they are going to need too so you can kick them or drop? Someone is being in selfish in this and it isn't who you think it is.

[Xhominid]

No one owes you an explanation, feeling you are entitled to it is your problem. Do you want to know if they are going to need too so you can kick them or drop? Someone is being in selfish in this and it isn't who you think it is.

So I'm being selfish and entitled for the grandiose crime...of someone simply saying they need the gear too? Holy ****, I didn't think I would see someone so pretentious act as if that is so selfish of me to even get a damn answer, whether they need or not for ANY purpose.

Seriously, you have enough time to continue typing all this on the forums, yet can type up 4 simple words? I'm not even agreeing with the OP on any level but this is ridiculous.

I complained when someone called me a dick? You want to be able to need on gear then queue up for the job that will allow the need roll, simple as that.

"I had 2 times where I asked in the polite manner if I can have this gear(CT Tank gear for my Elezen because let's face it Lorica gear is HORRIFIC on females and Scylla Gloves for my Roe because my Evenstar gloves clash badly with it) and I don't even get an ANSWER FROM THE PERSON WHO ROLLS AND WINS IT! In CT, the other Tank didn't need the CT hatpiece, but he never said anything about wanting it either, he just rolled on it, laughed and left. And yesterday, the other mage(yes, I rolled as a BLM and mainly had a Mage party...) again said nothing and rolled on it even when the others said they'll pass. My main issue is INTENT and not voicing it."

"Otherwise, I do try to be considerate to those who are weaker than me if I don't need and I won't raise a fuss if I play Monk and a Dragoon piece drops and vice versa for my other alts. And going back to the top, atleast be CONSIDERATE enough to state whether you need the pieces for BiS/Syn/Glamour, don't just take, you don't really look good doing so and continuously staying silent after the fact."

Why would I say any of that...if I didn't show up as the class I'm aiming that gear for?

Reading Comprehension...it's not just a commodity.

[Ryuukishi]

So I'm being selfish and entitled for the grandiose crime...of someone simply saying they need the gear too? Holy ****, I didn't think I would see someone so pretentious act as if that is so selfish of me to even get a damn answer, whether they need or not for ANY purpose.

Stop. You can come up with more and more elaborate justifications of why you deserve the gear more than the person you rolled against, but it's irrelevant. They have the same right to roll that you do. Period. You don't get to vet their reasons for rolling and they have no obligation to explain it to you.

[Xhominid]

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I get the feeling you like seeing yourself type...
You are exaggerating what I'm talking about but nice try. I don't remember me saying that for everything or me saying I say that for everything or it applies to everything. All I said as if someone asks that they need something, randomly changing that whole thing to "people going to ask for everything" nonsense isn't attacking my point in anyway, it just continues to point out how ridiculous this whole thing is with simply saying you need it as well IF someone asks if they can have something.

There is no entitlement in it whatsoever, so try again.
And P.S. this is not my first MMO and I barely even played in MMOs that had the greed system to begin with and barely cared.

Stop. You can come up with more and more elaborate justifications of why you deserve the gear more than the person you rolled against, but it's irrelevant. They have the same right to roll that you do. Period. You don't get to vet their reasons for rolling and they have no obligation to explain it to you.

Oh well hey, it's funny because the people who responded to me is doing the exact same nonsense. I'll I asked is simply saying SOMETHING, you is literally defending the right to be a troll yet not wanting to be called one. There is no justification or just cause for simply not saying ANYTHING, that's being lazy. And your defense is pretentious.

And hiding behind MMO logic doesn't stop you from being a troll. It's your right to do what you do, it's my right to call you a troll, we both payed money for this game monthly and THAT is my right.

[Lethallin]

Oh well hey, it's funny because the people who responded to me is doing the exact same nonsense. I'll I asked is simply saying SOMETHING, you is literally defending the right to be a troll yet not wanting to be called one. There is no justification or just cause for simply not saying ANYTHING, that's being lazy. And your defense is pretentious.

And hiding behind MMO logic doesn't stop you from being a troll. It's your right to do what you do, it's my right to call you a troll, we both payed money for this game monthly and THAT is my right.

He's simply stating that them saying they're going for something or not doesn't make a difference. It's possible they didn't know that item dropped. It's possible they didn't know it had that stat allocation. It's possible they don't read party chat. It's possible they are playing on a playstation and typing is a PITA so they don't bother.

Unless you plan on dropping group or initiating a votekick for them, the results will still be a 50/50 chance of you getting it if they say they want it or not. Some people are just not as talkative as others.

[Xhominid]

He's simply stating that them saying they're going for something or not doesn't make a difference. It's possible they didn't know that item dropped. It's possible they didn't know it had that stat allocation. It's possible they don't read party chat. It's possible they are playing on a playstation and typing is a PITA so they don't bother.

Unless you plan on dropping group or initiating a votekick for them, the results will still be a 50/50 chance of you getting it if they say they want it or not. Some people are just not as talkative as others.

And it's possible that they are trolls, it works in every single factor. I don't honestly believe that they just plain don't know anyway to communicate at all at post-game content. And I don't kick people for taking gear no matter what, I get pissed but I don't kick. I only kick when they act like douchebags over it.

[SynMaris]

Everything you say is wrong. No one needs to justify their intent to you. And why would you possibly need to know it? For a kick, a log-out or to try and talk them out of looting? Doesn't sound like you have anyones interest at heart but your own.

Well said sir.

[CodeCass]

Everything you say is wrong. No one needs to justify their intent to you. And why would you possibly need to know it? For a kick, a log-out or to try and talk them out of looting? Doesn't sound like you have anyones interest at heart but your own.

Very well said.