Community - The Most Likely Cause of the Game's Downfall

[Jynx]

this type of attitude is what contributes to the "me first generation" much more than anything SE could design.

SE designs the game systems and has full control over how people can use the need/greed system they purposfully designed the system to make low level content relevant to higher level players. Without them you would be stuck in duty finder ques for ages, but hey then almost everyone you play with would actually "Need" that gear as well.

It's a trade off, one that can be defeated with friends and making your own parties. But you know people expect others to bend to their will when grouped with random people.

[Nashred]

Don't hate the community for acting ultra insular. Duty finder breeds this community by removing any community building blocks and even making it hard to try and create a community.

Blame the game's ecosystem for catering to these players.

Everything SE does is counter community right down to the base game systems.

What I dont get is people blame duty finder for everything.. Duty finder does not make someone: a you fill in the blank. You have to be a blank to begin with.
I think people think they are anonymous in DF so they can act like a blank.. You can look everyone up on load stone and still report them for acting like a blank. I mean I use Duty finder all the time and I dont go off acting like a jerk just because I am Duty finder.
I think the real problem is lack of GM support in this game and how hard it is to report someone.

[Izsha]

Catwho gets it.

You want gear, go on that job and need. The loot system encourages you to play the job your gearing, but still have the off chance to slowly get gear for other classes. You want to insta cue on tank but get dps gear? To bad. Go get on dps. You want tank gear, but don't want the responsibility and go on dps? To bad.

If you want gear then just PLAY the job you want gear for. This loot system rewards you on the job you olay. Stop QQ ing about not being able to greed everything your little heart desires. Straight up entittlement. You earn the right to need by playing the job.

[FranSeara]

A few choice words..."Can I please have that Fran?" "Would you pass that for me Fran?" Ok, yours. Works everytime..

[myahele]

The rule of thumb is this for loot is this:
A. You run as the job that can need it
B.You can ask (nicely)the party in advance if they can pass it on to you; especially if there's another person on the same job as you.

There's been plenty of run where a person asked nicely to get X gear and we all passed since we either don't need it or already have it.

Lastly, I always roll greed just in case no else does. So frustrating when i roll pass and everyone passes on the loot. Such a waste

[Xhominid]

I would like to say my issues with the system and some of the players I met with it:

I'm not going to say the system is busted or whatever, but it really does suck when people press Need specifically for Glamour/BiS/Synthesize when there are other weaker party members on the team. I don't wanna hear the excuses, it's just how I see it and it sucks but that doesn't mean I don't aim on the glamour side myself OR it's a deliberate troll/dick move.

I had 2 times where I asked in the polite manner if I can have this gear(CT Tank gear for my Elezen because let's face it Lorica gear is HORRIFIC on females and Scylla Gloves for my Roe because my Evenstar gloves clash badly with it) and I don't even get an ANSWER FROM THE PERSON WHO ROLLS AND WINS IT! In CT, the other Tank didn't need the CT hatpiece, but he never said anything about wanting it either, he just rolled on it, laughed and left. And yesterday, the other mage(yes, I rolled as a BLM and mainly had a Mage party...) again said nothing and rolled on it even when the others said they'll pass. My main issue is INTENT and not voicing it.

I'll usually say dead out what I'm aiming for(either glamour purposes or gearing) if there is multiple classes as the one I'm at and I usually get a bit pissed when no one says "I need it too" and just rolls on it, it just makes me see them as slimy trolls.

Otherwise, I do try to be considerate to those who are weaker than me if I don't need and I won't raise a fuss if I play Monk and a Dragoon piece drops and vice versa for my other alts. And going back to the top, atleast be CONSIDERATE enough to state whether you need the pieces for BiS/Syn/Glamour, don't just take, you don't really look good doing so and continuously staying silent after the fact.

[SynMaris]

Snip.

Just because you "asked nicely" doesn't mean they have to automatically bend the knee to give you what you want.

[Kasenai]

...And going back to the top, atleast be CONSIDERATE enough to state whether you need the pieces for BiS/Syn/Glamour, don't just take, you don't really look good doing so and continuously staying silent after the fact...

Why are you trying to shame people for rolling for gear they've legitimately earned? Sounds like you're just looking for an excuse to bully people into giving you what you want.

[Xhominid]

Just because you "asked nicely" doesn't mean they have to automatically bend the knee to give you what you want.

Why are you trying to shame people for rolling for gear they've legitimately earned? Sounds like you're just looking for an excuse to bully people into giving you what you want.

Hurray, exactly the people I was talking about...

I'm not asking whether I deserve or want anything or doing any of that nonsense you are assuming. Simply saying you need it too is more than enough, randomly acting like you need to say nothing and act as if you deserve it is exactly what you are saying I'm doing. Freaking hypocrites.

[Magusrex]

Hurray, exactly the people I was talking about...

I'm not asking whether I deserve or want anything or doing any of that nonsense you are assuming. Simply saying you need it too is more than enough, randomly acting like you need to say nothing and act as if you deserve it is exactly what you are saying I'm doing. Freaking hypocrites.

No one owes you an explanation, feeling you are entitled to it is your problem. Do you want to know if they are going to need too so you can kick them or drop? Someone is being in selfish in this and it isn't who you think it is.