It's about time to add Coil story mode, isn't it ?

[EdwinLi]

While youtube can be a lazy cheap way to see coil cutscenes, people tend to feel more connected to the cutscene if they can have their own character in the cutscene which is why they value it more than the cheap "youtube it" videos.

As for story mode arrive, I still see it as something that will arrive eventually since Coil will eventually become outdated enough that very few would bother entering coil due to level cap raise, higher tier endgame that doesn't require coil to access, and other reasons.

Now it may appear too early to implament but eventually SE will be forced into a corner to either release a Story mode for better access to Coil Storyline or let it rot away in a corner while it becomes the "Oh that old content" thing later in FF14 lifespan.

[Almalexia]

All the salty raiders in this thread not wanting to share their precious raids because it's their last resort to retain their shallow pride.

First people don't want to play the game, now they don't want to read the thread. But they still want to participate like those who do.

Mad world.

[Sapphic]

All the salty raiders in this thread not wanting to share their precious raids because it's their last resort to retain their shallow pride.

It's not about not wanting to share anything, I would love to see more of the playerbase being able to clear hard content as it would validate more resources being allocated to creating that type of content. So it would be a win-win for everyone.

What I am at the point is that there are too many who think that they should take away the only content that is targetted at players who enjoy a challenge. Whereas they could improve and tackle the content as well. No, they are too lazy and would prefer to be carried by those who can as too many do not want to put in that effort to improve their skill with the game to be able to tackle said content. It's the attitude of "We can't do it so no one else should have it" mentality that irks.

Everyone can access content, the only ones stopping them are themselves and their desire to access and take on said content. Initiative and desire is a great motivator to obtain things. You want something bad enough you will push to obtain it (outside of redicoulous wants:P).

With the two versions of 8 peep raids coming in Heavensward, I can safely say there will be same kind of complaints from some who call normal mode "too hard".

[Kinseykinz]

It's not about not wanting to share anything, I would love to see more of the playerbase being able to clear hard content as it would validate more resources being allocated to creating that type of content. So it would be a win-win for everyone.

What I am at the point is that there are too many who think that they should take away the only content that is targetted at players who enjoy a challenge. Whereas they could improve and tackle the content as well. No, they are too lazy and would prefer to be carried by those who can as too many do not want to put in that effort to improve their skill with the game to be able to tackle said content. It's the attitude of "We can't do it so no one else should have it" mentality that irks.

Everyone can access content, the only ones stopping them are themselves and their desire to access and take on said content. Initiative and desire is a great motivator to obtain things. You want something bad enough you will push to obtain it (outside of redicoulous wants:P).

With the two versions of 8 peep raids coming in Heavensward, I can safely say there will be same kind of complaints from some who call normal mode "too hard".

I don't want to take away 'challenging' content...nor do I want in any way to diminish your efforts/rewards.

And that's what IS happening right now with the current structure....new turns come out=gimp the old ones, meaning now more people can 'clear' the same content you worked hard on easily/easier.

Now if instead, they from the get-go, had a 'storymode' slightly easier version (think current turns post nerfs), and then alongside these had the 'hard' versions, you'd still have your challenging content/rewards for your effort....as I don't think storymode should really offer much of a reward. Furthermore, if they actually made 2 versions and released them from the get-go...it would mean that they could potentially make the 'hard' versions more challenging/requiring teamwork than the current endgame situations offer because they wouldn't have to worry about re-tuning the battles later (nerfing) for the general playerbase. Also, it would mean that sexy battleaxe you earned after 12-20 hours of wiping and learning mechanics remains special down the road as it would be unlikely that every tom, dick , and jane who waited for the nerf cycle to happen now also was running around with it. Basically, if you saw people with the gear from Turn x, they earned it...as opposed to now where maybe they did...maybe they got carried, maybe they waited until nerf-farming runs happened.


Still, your assumption that most who want the 2 versions want it because they simply wish to water down endgame content is wrong. It's actually the opposite...as if they were happy with watering down the current endgame, they'd be more okay with the current nerfing cycle that happens....or be complaining more that 'storymode' doesn't = new shinies. If you notice most people supporting storymode however, aren't asking for a 'different but equal' approach...they aren't asking for nice gears, or rewards or for the nerfing of hardmode, they are simply asking for a more succent version of the hardmode, that could be entered/exited without lockouts and with the content more paced for pugging. Which by the way, doesn't necessarily = faceroll either. Probably something between Normal and EX primals in challenge level is what people are expecting. So a couple wipes etc but generally puggable. But more importantly, not locked and repeatable. Basically, take the 'static' needs and 'time commitment' needs out of it.

And while yes, you are right...there might be 3.0 whiners who cry 'hard mode is too hard' well, the nice thing is, now there will be storymode for them. I really have no sympathy for them....because either they pony up and meet the challenge or realize, maybe they aren't the best 'insert job name here' player ever. I still strongly suspect, that this 'whiner' crew will be much smaller and less vocal than those wishing there weren't lockouts, needs for statics etc. And you are right, the people who really really want to challenge the endgame content, do find ways to do so....but they are fewer and far between than those 'mildly interested'/ 'just want to experience it'. So again, having both modes is win/win for everyone.

[Magis]

With the two versions of 8 peep raids coming in Heavensward, I can safely say there will be same kind of complaints from some who call normal mode "too hard".

That's the funny part. The people who are asking for 1st/2nd Coil "story mode" and bringing up Alexander as an example are going to get a rude awakening. If you think current coil 1 or 2 is hard, well too bad, Alexander "normal" or "easy" (w.e it will be called) is going to be just that. Alexander "hard" is just going to end up like Final Coil is now.

[Kuwagami]

That's the funny part. The people who are asking for 1st/2nd Coil "story mode" and bringing up Alexander as an example are going to get a rude awakening. If you think current coil 1 or 2 is hard, well too bad, Alexander "normal" or "easy" (w.e it will be called) is going to be just that. Alexander "hard" is just going to end up like Final Coil is now.

alexander easy will be SCoB nerfed + echo. Easy enough to see the story imo, considering a nerfed T9 would be meteor no longer go boom if stacked, garotte's a goner, dragon's AoE nerfed, fire/ice nerfed and no longer a one shot is 2 gt stacked (so you don't have to worry about fire at all, jsut stack all time), etc etc...

Everyone can clear a hard hitting/no insta gib mob with enough practice. It takes a bit more (aka, coordination) to clear regular coil.

[Dererk]

A story on why no story mode and NO you can't have one.

Here we have elitist raider he just wants things done no questions asked his way or highway. Not part of this forget him.

Now here we have Raider A he loves the story of coil but also the challenge it brings he study's the fights learns the rotations and where to improve he loves progress but not against lending out a helping hand now and then ( no he is not a clear seller clear sellers are trash.)

Now here we have casual raider B she likes to do coil but all ways has trouble learning the fight because of real life stuff so gets it in while she can she looks to try to build a casual ls or static that can adjust to every ones schedules and is getting progress as well as gear.

Now....we have very super casual raider C the one sadly who whines saying I pay to play this I deserve to do all end game and have a story mode for raids because they want the story and nothing else.


Now lets take a look at what raiders C has done by demanding this and some how getting his way.
SUPER EASY END GAME.
LOOSE OF PLAYERS FROM THIS.
THERE FOR FFXIV GOSE FREE TO PLAY.
PAY TO WIN CASH SHOP GIVES BEST GEAR.
REST IN PIECE FFXIV.

End game is ment to be challenging not easy.
Remember every one MMO is a very fragile entity too much story not enough of a challenge or one or the other it falls and dies.

Don't be like elitst raider or raider C. If you can't be like Raider A be like raider B. Have fun

[Kuwagami]

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read better next time. thanks. You're caricaturing what was said here and are no better than other people you're trying to belittle

Now lets take a look at what raiders C has done by demanding this and some how getting his way.
SUPER EASY END GAME.
LOOSE OF PLAYERS FROM THIS.
THERE FOR FFXIV GOSE FREE TO PLAY.
PAY TO WIN CASH SHOP GIVES BEST GEAR.
REST IN PIECE FFXIV.

We'll add that to the "Many deaths of FFxiv" thread. You'll have your tribute, don't worry.


FFxiv's end game is NOT hard. In any way. Every mechanic is easy to understand and master if you have half a brain and the time to practice it (or see it enough to grasp it). What is hard is to be competent (but again, the game doesn't require to be perfect. Just good) and to find 7 other competent people with time schedule which are compatible with you. Once you have that, there is nothing left but practice.



also WHY THE HECK IS THIS THREAD STILL ALIVE ?

Well technically I'm contributing to this but well... >_>

Everything has already been said, and steps have already been made on devs' side for this. Let it go please

[Zumi]

I know there will be a story mode in 3.0 with Alexander Normal but won't that just shift the complains from casual players from "there needs to be a story mode" to "Alexander hard mode is too hard I can't get the best gear". You won't have story mode complains anymore but a lot more complains about hard mode being too hard and not being able to get gear. Some people are never satisfied.

[Venom]

Why would we even want an easy mode coil? It would be a waste of developers time. By the time it would be ready, Echo will probably be in FCOB along with difficulty nerfs we have seen in earlier coils. I Would much rather they worked on new content for the expansion or additions to gold saucer etc... if people want to check the story of coil but don't have the skill to do it they have 2 options.

1)Practice.
2)Youtube will probably have the cutscenes.

Pretty sure there will be normal and hard mode raid in expansion so everybody wins.
Remember, easy mode exist already... it is called ECHO.