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    Well speaking from experience MageBlack, as I mentioned earlier. I could be in a wold RP, like was roleplaying in the inn of drybone, and teleport hacking bots were pouring in every few minutes before porting out. That was hurting immersion seeing that type of stuff. So there's still a ton and ton of bots. They just aren't shooting out RMT whispers. Those from what I can tell, are coming from stolen accounts. I made sure when ARR came out, to order an authenticator first thing. Any MMO I play that offers that extra layer of protection, I immediately grab.

    And at this point, it would be best to do as you said, slap the server titles on, though pvp I don't think makes much sense since there is no open world pvp in this game. So servers would need only 2 tags: (PvE) and (RP). And given it's unofficial designation, Balmung should get the (RP) tag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackweaver View Post
    Well speaking from experience MageBlack, as I mentioned earlier. I could be in a wold RP, like was roleplaying in the inn of drybone, and teleport hacking bots were pouring in every few minutes before porting out. That was hurting immersion seeing that type of stuff. So there's still a ton and ton of bots. They just aren't shooting out RMT whispers. Those from what I can tell, are coming from stolen accounts. I made sure when ARR came out, to order an authenticator first thing. Any MMO I play that offers that extra layer of protection, I immediately grab.

    And at this point, it would be best to do as you said, slap the server titles on, though pvp I don't think makes much sense since there is no open world pvp in this game. So servers would need only 2 tags: (PvE) and (RP). And given it's unofficial designation, Balmung should get the (RP) tag.
    I wasnt saying there are no bots, only that there are fewer than other servers that are not locked like Balmung is. I think that a PvP dedication wouldnt be a bad thing. I know there is no open world PvP but there is a PvP community and if you have a few spread out across many servers in a datacenter, its harder for them to gather together to form a functional team. You could easily get away with maybe one PvP server for this game but just like having a RP server, it would be nice to see other distinctions as well.

    Still, the amount of Bots and RMT is a game wide issue and something that is constantly being dealt with. The hardest part I would imagine would be finding a solution that interferes least with legitimate players. it's no easy task, and task that is only complicated and antagonized by players getting frustrated. imagine how upset you get about them breaking your immersion, not imagine having to deal with all the bots, RMT, AND all the players like yourself that see them. It's no picknick. I think sometimes players and posters here lack a little compassion but thats a whole different rant and not directed at anyone here specifically.
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    Probably the only real way to actively fight the RMT, is to completely block their access to the game entirely. Even if it means blocking the IP of their general location. Or prevent them from making accounts by keeping tabs on the credit cards they use, or the emails they use. Though credit cards might be the biggest way. If they are using trial accounts, well... the only solution to that, is to do away with the trials, or stick trial accounts onto their own server and when it is upgrade time, offer them a free transfer to a server of their choice after they pay for the game.

    These are only suggestions mind you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackweaver View Post
    Probably the only real way to actively fight the RMT, is to completely block their access to the game entirely. Even if it means blocking the IP of their general location. Or prevent them from making accounts by keeping tabs on the credit cards they use, or the emails they use. Though credit cards might be the biggest way. If they are using trial accounts, well... the only solution to that, is to do away with the trials, or stick trial accounts onto their own server and when it is upgrade time, offer them a free transfer to a server of their choice after they pay for the game.

    These are only suggestions mind you
    How does one tell the difference between an RMT and someone farming to save money for a plot of land? I would really hate to get banned cause I started to farm crystals by going from node to node. Especially if i accidentally did that teleport glitch. Yes, after a point it is obvious to us but banning accounts or blocking CC access is only a bandaid solution, for these types its nothing to hack another account or buy another copy or change their VPN or apply/steal another CC. gotta find out how to stop them before they start. also consider that they wouldnt be able to continue if people didnt buy their product. No market, no RMT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackweaver View Post
    Probably the only real way to actively fight the RMT, is to completely block their access to the game entirely. Even if it means blocking the IP of their general location.
    Yeah I'll enjoy having my raid members unable to play because their region happens to host a lot of bots, all because someone wants to make their 7th character on the most locked-down server. Why are people accusing SE of doing nothing about bots, do they even read the lodestone?

    http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...0cf0c2b7b874b9
    http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e9add396ace306
    http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...838eb7ef36cc83
    http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...5ef054e06f1ab6

    The ban waves are every week now and there's some 20,000 accounts there in the last month alone. They just make new accounts, and will continue doing so as long as its profitable. Lastly you have no self-awareness if you don't see why people aren't feeling sympathy for you. It's nothing to do with congestion. People struggle to get onto the most populated servers at all, you managed to make 6 so we're all playing the world's smallest violin for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackweaver View Post
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    Blocking connections from a general area could also block legitimate players from the game, which is a pretty terrible move. I'd hate to get banned just because someone in my area, unrelated to me, is using bots. The credit card tracing idea would work better, but then again isn't it possible to just pay with time cards? That's what I do to pay my subscription, don't see why RMT accounts couldn't do the same.

    Also trial accounts only go for two weeks, or until you reach level 20, whichever happens first. I've seen bots well over level 20, so they're obviously not using trial accounts.

    I do think RMT bots are a big issue, but I doubt it would fix your problem to clean them out. SE cleans thousands out regularly, from what I've been reading in this thread, the real source of your problem is just how popular the server itself is.
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