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  1. #21
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    Blackweaver's Avatar
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    Kailia Greenheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    Don't get me wrong I have nothing against the RP players in general, I actually find it entertaining to come across them and listen in from time to time but sometimes it just....


    Here's the line -----....... Here's you across the line.
    We can only have 8 characters on a server if paying the $14.99 per month or going with multiple months. I've only got 6 alts. I want to make the gladiator alt, but I'm going to want to also have an Au Ra come the expansion. That's not crossing a line to want to try different races. If I am paying the $14.99 to have up to 8 characters on my home server, then I should be able to make up to 8 characters on my home server.
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  2. #22
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    Alessa Ravachi
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    You also have to realize it does take up memory space for the server itself. Whether your on character A or character B, the fact of the matter is the data saved on the server takes up space which is why it's limited.
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  3. #23
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    Femke Fisker
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    If it's that important to you, pay for a transfer and bypass the congestion.
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  4. #24
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    Alessa Ravachi
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    (all numbers are an example and do not represent real numbers)

    If the server can hold say.... 15,000 characters. You figure there's roughly 2000 players. Each player could make 7.5 characters and the character space for memory would be full. Now take people here and there that either only make 1 or 2 alts, be it for bank space/other jobs/whatnot, a few people who make no alts, then the RP players... Who seem make as many alts as the can(usually). So your making of alts overpopulates the characters memory space per server.
    Now. Obviously we have the *occasional clear out* of ban characters, which clears up the world a tad bit from time to time. Also people who may move to another server and delete or transfer their current character.

    But in the end it's(numerically speaking) the server being full is the fault of, and problem to, the RP community that is trying to overwhelm balmung.
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  5. #25
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    Mandze Evensent
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    Since someone can only be logged in to one character on an account at a time, it really doesn't make much sense to disallow players who already have a character on a server from making new ones. If they are logged in as their main or a bot, it still is only one logged in character.

    The queue to login, lag and whatnot results from the number of people logged in at once-- a good number of whom are bots or are afk. I know nobody liked the afk timer, but I didn't see anything wrong with it. And I sure as heck am in favor of bringing the pain to the bots.
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  6. #26
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    Kailia Greenheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black91CRX View Post
    If it's that important to you, pay for a transfer and bypass the congestion.
    That's the thing. I shouldn't have to. If Blizzard Entertainment can make a full server be locked to prevent new players from making characters on a full server, but still allow players who are already on the server, to make an alt, then SE can too. But I have a feeling soon I will be able to make my alt. We got a maintenance coming up soon, for the patch that brings gold saucer. So I will probably be able to make my alt then. But regardless, SE needs to address the server always locked issue.
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  7. #27
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    People already on Balmung can't create new characters when the server is locked either, and for that matter server locks are caused by the amount of people logging into the server not the amount of characters on it.
    All traffic is considered as part of the decision. If there are tons of people currently logged in then yes it has a problem. It's not solely based on the current volume of people simply logging in.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandze View Post
    Since someone can only be logged in to one character on an account at a time, it really doesn't make much sense to disallow players who already have a character on a server from making new ones. If they are logged in as their main or a bot, it still is only one logged in character.

    The queue to login, lag and whatnot results from the number of people logged in at once-- a good number of whom are bots or are afk. I know nobody liked the afk timer, but I didn't see anything wrong with it. And I sure as heck am in favor of bringing the pain to the bots.
    You obviously didn't even try to read my post, about being online or not the character data takes up server memory space which causes the world to be closed

    Albeit it's only an estimate of the numbers and all but I would bet money that I'm not far off
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  9. #29
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    Mandze Evensent
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    I read it, although after I already posted my reply. Things move fast.

    I'm not sure of the exact amount of data necessary to hold a character file, but I doubt it is really all that much-- I have a feeling that the restrictions are based on the number of players who can be logged in at once, not the number of characters that can be saved data-wise. Even if the save data is somehow bloated to absurd proportions, if SE is selling a game where part of the selling point is that you can have multiple characters, they should upgrade their servers so that they can hold the characters that they promised people they could have.
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  10. #30
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    Kailia Greenheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    You obviously didn't even try to read my post, about being online or not the character data takes up server memory space which causes the world to be closed

    Albeit it's only an estimate of the numbers and all but I would bet money that I'm not far off
    Your post is laughable at best because you are trying to sound like you know what you are talking about. RPers make up, at most, 10-15% of Balmung. The majority of the server is PVEers and the blackmage bots. Basically 1 out of 20 players on Balmung is an RPer. Character space means nothing. It's the amount of people connected to the server that is the issue. And the server always being locked now, is recent. It began when we logged in one day and saw about 200 thaumaturge bots in western and central thanalan. And lots of people reported them. And them bots are still there. SE needs to get on this issue, and stop trying to sound like you know how SE's systems work, because you clearly do not.
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