Gold Saucer outfits, gender locked?

[Krr]

Are you kidding me? He's been the poster boy of downcast, androgynous, spiky-haired anime boys for decades since FFVII's release, and is still portayed that way in rereleases and spinoffs.

you realize that's literally considered one of the main supermasculine forms of attractiveness in japan, right

You do understand a person's gender doesn't have to be forefront to everything they do, right?

i'm telling you that the writers do not represent faris as a man. this is either because faris is a trans man and they're terrible at writing that, or faris is a woman who wears men's clothing. regardless, authorial intent is that she's a female-assigned character wearing men's clothing and showing masculine character traits.

Do you hate women or something so much that, when they're portrayed as strong leaders in games, it was only because of her gender status?

that's a man made of straw, honey, i'm over here. you know, the one saying that women in a video game should have more forms of choice and expression for themselves

[Ippiki]

Yeah, because the hero/villain dichotomy created by Cloud's memories, a main theme of his character and one that went on to surpass a lot of other themes in the game, is worthless because it was exposed early on? And you're calling me stupid, christ.

Also, SE is a business, if they make too many people unhappy over costumes, they'll lose FAR more than losing a couple dozen customers over screwing with lore a bit.

[NozomiKei]

You bring up a decent point Nozomi, but the difference between what you want, and what the devs are trying to not totally shatter immersion with, aren't the same.

The FFXIII items are pretty bad, but at least they're gender-specific. Swimsuits are right, wedding clothing is fine(Best Man's is a bit odd, yet acceptable for females), and most of the other gear in the game is fine.

Setzer is a wealthy, intelligent, confident ladies man that wears his clothes as a sign of his success and skill. Seeing a catgirl run around with it would be nothing short of disgusting.

Of course, if there's a female gambler/entertainer character similar to Setzer, that also has a unique outfit, that would be acceptable for females instead of the bunnysuit option, but as we've seen, in the devs eyes, there isn't.

Oh god, you're one of those "breaking immersion" people... And very obviously misogynistic to boot. How exactly did you come to the decision that female catgirls can't be wealthy, intelligent, confident, ladies' women? Maybe they want to wear the Setzer outfit as a sign of their success and skill. What you said implies that you think only men can have these traits.
What about the people who have no clue who Setzer is, huh? To those people it's just a cool looking coat, pants, and boots; what part of their gender is supposed to bar someone from wearing any of those things?
Female equivalent characters have already been mentioned.
I've noticed that the way you speak gives off this really strong air of 'what I say is fact and only my opinions are worthy'. So judge, jury, and executioner style.

[Teia]

How exactly did you come to the decision that female catgirls can't be wealthy, intelligent, confident, ladies' women?

Hell, just for the sake of discussion, my character's actually meant to be the "tall, dark, and handsome" type. That's a description usually given to male characters, but my character is female and I don't consider that this style really makes her "an exception to the gender dichotomy" or anything like Ippiki said. Butch, maybe, but that's still unquestionably female, even though she has some traditionally "masculine" traits.

Gender expression isn't binary. There's a whole spectrum there, and if that's somehow immersion-breaking, then that's the fault of the player for being unable to handle things outside a narrow worldview, not the fault of the game for presenting something the player might not see in real life very often.

[NozomiKei]

And my giraffe is meant to be cool, elegant, seductive, and sultry. He's very feminine in some ways but still unquestionably male in others; I like to screw with expectations of what a masculine character can be. Part of that is done with my clothing choice ingame.

[Intrepimid]

Dear SE:

FF6 has been my favorite game since 94. Setzer has been one of my favorite game characters out of any game I've played period. He's so far up on my list of favorites I have a tattoo on my left arm. And now you're telling me I can't get his jacket in this game because I play a female character.

You have no idea how hard I'm trying not to unleash so many f-bombs right now.

[Nephera]

Has anyone mentioned that Bogatyr's longcoats with the plain long skirt is basically just a formal dress for either gender.

[Emerald_Wyvern]

A couple crossdressers whining about costumes won't show up as even the smallest blip in their stock portfolio.

Also, I'm not the most devoted FF scholar, are there ANY female characters closely associated with the casino/entertainment industry similar to Setzer, and thus worthy of representation?

I know this post was a while back, but what about Maria? Considering the whole plot to kidnap her and Celes having having to dress as her and whatnot. Sure it'd be pretty much another dress, but it'd be much, much better than what we are getting.

[Archvile78]

Heh, that's too bad. I looked forward to wear Setzer's outfit as a glamour replacement. Oh well~

[Niwashi]

Setzer is a wealthy, intelligent, confident ladies man that wears his clothes as a sign of his success and skill. Seeing a catgirl run around with it would be nothing short of disgusting.

Why? Because girls can't be wealthy, intelligent, and confident? There's nothing about a colorful long coat that would make it a specifically male piece of attire. Nor is there anything about displaying wealth and confidence that would be an inherently male trait. Women will do that just as much. The outfit looks expensive enough to display wealth and flamboyant enough to display confidence, so I'm focusing on those adjectives, but if it did display intelligence or skill, then those would also be equally appropriate to women. That you would consider any of these traits in a woman to be "nothing short of disgusting" is highly disturbing.