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    You have Swiftcast just in case
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelya View Post
    You have Swiftcast just in case
    Swiftcast is for Holy :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Swiftcast is for Holy :P
    Hahaha so true, that's a really big deal for the OP then!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Swiftcast is for Holy :P
    No, Swiftcast is for infight raising Dragoons :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelya View Post
    You have Swiftcast just in case
    A. What if Swiftcast is on CD

    B. Can you think of a reason why SS2 has a casting time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderbreak View Post
    A. What if Swiftcast is on CD

    B. Can you think of a reason why SS2 has a casting time?
    Yes. So that it's inconvenient to use prior to every pull. It's nice before bosses or if you want to not have swiftcast for a minute.

    If it was instant, why have it at all? Why not just make it a WHM trait that everyone around you always has stoneskin while out of battle. Automatically applied. Raises, spot healing, teleports, and buffs too. Also we can teleport to the next group of mobs automatically because it's out of battle and there's no reason not to just be there, already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viviza View Post
    Yes. So that it's inconvenient to use prior to every pull. It's nice before bosses or if you want to not have swiftcast for a minute.

    If it was instant, why have it at all? Why not just make it a WHM trait that everyone around you always has stoneskin while out of battle. Automatically applied. Raises, spot healing, teleports, and buffs too. Also we can teleport to the next group of mobs automatically because it's out of battle and there's no reason not to just be there, already.
    You can probably anwser your own question. Why did SE introduce SS2?

    And like I talked about the other abilities, there's a reason they need cast time because you can use them in battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderbreak View Post
    You can probably anwser your own question. Why did SE introduce SS2?
    Because investing 24s to cast stoneskins on a raid group before each pull was monotonous. There was no choice or timing involved beyond that initial decision to stoneskin everyone, so you may as well have done it with a macro. That doesn't mean the group version should just ignore the notion of costs - there are still tradeoffs to consider when casting it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viviza View Post
    Because investing 24s to cast stoneskins on a raid group before each pull was monotonous. There was no choice or timing involved beyond that initial decision to stoneskin everyone, so you may as well have done it with a macro. That doesn't mean the group version should just ignore the notion of costs - there are still tradeoffs to consider when casting it or not.
    And what trade off is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderbreak View Post
    And what trade off is that?
    That it costs time and MP. Thus:

    Quote Originally Posted by Viviza View Post
    Yes. So that it's inconvenient to use prior to every pull. It's nice before bosses or if you want to not have swiftcast for a minute.
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