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  1. #21
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    Mishini_Dracoto's Avatar
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    Misenklauph Drakkfhur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asierid View Post
    Cut it off at the head. Follow the trail and take the account with the majority of the Gil, they have to start all over again and purchase a new account.
    Permabanning the people buying it does nothing to the overall picture.

    Besides, everyone has dirty RMT Gil in their bags from somewhere. Be glad they're not gung-ho about it like before and start taking money/locking accounts for people being rich like they did at release.
    Your Logic is flawed, since they make the gil so fast. Ever notice the cost of gil goes up after a ban? (Assuming you read your tell-spam) but they know that their accounts being banned is part of the pocess.

    by banning the people BUYING GIL, you are setting a standard of "Do not buy gil, or you won't play at all" If the Unholy Fear of godSqueenix is instilled in the hearts of all players, everybody will stop buying gil. When nobody is buying gil, RMT will stop, because it won't be profitable.

    The increasing amout of tells that we get, and the fact that there are growing #'s in consistent variations of set tells, as well as tells from characters that seem to be named in certain styles, tells me that the number of RMT GROUPS/businesses is increasing. More "RMT Businesses" Seem to be starting up, which could only be because it is so profitable for them.

    one day (I think it was shortly after a patch) I spent a few hours farming new materials released and crafted some items that sold for about 20 mil. At the realization of how much 20 mil was going for a the time, it dawned on me that I could make more money by selling gil than the average minimum wage american employee. If a 12-yr old in Vietnam could do the same thing for a year, he'd be set for life.

    The only thing to stop that 12 yr old from feeding his family is by dropping the ban hammer on people who buy gil.

    While I may have suddenly made this story morally conflicting to some people, ou must remember that my 12 yr old example a) he's a criminal b) he's usually being paid a smaller amount to some "Businessman" *cough* slaver, excuse me, whose really raking in the dough. Then again, since it can be profitable for Americans, I KNOW there are people in NA doing it as well.

    In both of my former FC's, I stated how strongl I was against RMT the moment I had joined, that somebody had discussed with me about how he sold gil on WoW and Eve, and had planned to do it in FFXIV. I told him that If I ever thoguht he was doing it on our server I would report him, and at a bare minimum, if he could not do it on our server, so that, hopefully, I could live an RMT-free life. he said OK, but then, he's Filthy RMT scum, so who can say?
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    Last edited by Mishini_Dracoto; 02-14-2015 at 01:35 AM.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/2237443/]
    Quote Originally Posted by Noni View Post
    I wish more tanks were like you also.
    http://xivreborn.com/gen/Misenklauph_Drakkfhur_Ultros_Classes.jpg

  2. #22
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    CrystalRainbow's Avatar
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    Balmung
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    PERMANENTLY BAN THE ONES WHO BUY THE GIL

    Ban the Credit Card.
    Ban the SE account and everything connected to it including your SE online money if it's still around. (can't recall what it is called)
    Every major update make people agree to the terms of uses, and make changes to them when it applies.


    RMT is bad for MMOs I don't care what side of the coin you are on. The negative undertone of RMT make any MMO look bad. Ya players put up with it but they don't like it.
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  3. #23
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    Marisela's Avatar
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    Thasha Kathea
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    I'm glad they start banning gil buyer too, but I'm dissapointed it isn't as much as gil seller and ONLY TEMP BANNED ONLY. WTH SE?. It's too bad the gil buyer don't see this since it post on Lodestone and not many visited it.

    They should do a Global Announcement every Month once or three times with the info how many RMT and RMT Buyer Accounts are banned. Soon, they will get the message, especially gil buyer. But this time, need to Banned the Gil Buyer Permanently!

    No one buy gil = No Market for Gil Seller and force them to move on to another Game. This is genius! Kill 2 birds with one stone.
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    Last edited by Marisela; 02-14-2015 at 03:22 AM.

  4. #24
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    Gurpsmeister's Avatar
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    Mayumi Shiro
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    perma bans will never be a thing for one simple reason. They want your money. They'll get rid of the sellers, sure. The buyers will get a slap on the wrist and a stern talking to and then let loose upon the world because it's more valuable to them to keep you than loose you. MMO world is competitive and every dollar counts.
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  5. #25
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    Why don't we just start lynching anyone that looks like a buyer? Then they'll never be able to subscribe again even with a new credit card.
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  6. #26
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Instead of banning players who buy gil, why not bust all but one of their classes to 1, and leave 1 class at 10 to prevent the game barfing over the armory system. A temporary ban is a very limited punishment since once the ban is lifted they get back in with everything. But dropping all their classes to level 1 would force them to replay everything, and be a much more lasting punishment.

    Oh, and of course repeat offenders just need to get their account banned permanently.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 02-14-2015 at 03:28 AM.

  7. #27
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    Fornix Amygdala
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    - Accounts receiving disciplinary action for participation in RMT/illegal activity: 102
    - Action Details: Temporary ban from FINAL FANTASY XIV

    PERMANENTLY BAN THE ONES WHO BUY THE GIL
    It's not made clear which this participation in RMT/illegal activity truly means. Were it players who purchased gil themselves? Were it players who accepted a large sum of RMT purchased gil from a friend or other player? It's not clear from this minor listing. The sum of gil involved is also not clear. Perhaps the purchased quantity of gil was minimal, e.g. 1 million. Just for keeping a player afloat and have some gil for food and such to raid. Within an economy filled by players walking around with 10+ million gil with ease I can easily understand a mere slap on the wrist to be given then.
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  8. #28
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    all im going to say is i havent received an rmt advertising tell in weeks here on phoenix so gj se
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  9. #29
    Player JayCommon's Avatar
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    Indaki Sativa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    A temporary ban is a very limited punishment since once the ban is lifted they get back in with everything..

    I highly doubt this, do you know someone firsthand that had this experience? It would make no sense at all to ban someone (albeit temporarily) to allow them to come back and prosper with the very thing they were banned for doing.

    In 2.0 some people (some wrongly, some rightly) were accused of buying RMT and had Gil directly removed from their accounts. I'm sure all of the people who got the temporary ban will have most, if not all, of their gil removed from their account when they are able to return.


    Quote Originally Posted by Stupiduglytaru View Post
    all im going to say is i have received an rmt advertising tell in weeks here on phoenix so gj se
    Must be nice... I can play for about 4hrs a day and 3hrs of that is normally spent in coil. I get about 40-50 tells on Goblin for the last week. ;-;
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  10. #30
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
    I highly doubt this, do you know someone firsthand that had this experience? It would make no sense at all to ban someone (albeit temporarily) to allow them to come back and prosper with the very thing they were banned for doing.

    In 2.0 some people (some wrongly, some rightly) were accused of buying RMT and had Gil directly removed from their accounts. I'm sure all of the people who got the temporary ban will have most, if not all, of their gil removed from their account when they are able to return.
    I can't say either way, all I can do is go by the wording of the notice that indicates the action taken was a temp ban. I remember players having gil confiscated, right or wrong, but I don't remember seeing a complaint about that recently, so I presumed that the number of false positives convinced SE that it was not a viable tactic.
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