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    Regarding Actions Taken Against RMT & Other Illicit Activities 2/12/2015

    Time Period: Feb. 5, 2015 to Feb. 11, 2015
    - Accounts receiving disciplinary action for RMT advertising: 521
    - Accounts receiving disciplinary action for RMT/illicit activity: 7,283
    - Action Details: Permanent ban from FINAL FANTASY XIV

    - Accounts receiving disciplinary action for participation in RMT/illegal activity: 102
    - Action Details: Temporary ban from FINAL FANTASY XIV


    Time to change that Temporary ban for the players buying gil to permanent ban.

    Every person who subs to this game understands the ramifications RMT has on the game, and every single one of them agreed to the TOS.

    No more slap on the wrists. If you are blatantly buying gil it should be one strike and your out. If you want to quell the amount of RMT that's going on in this game, impose severe punishment for the people creating the problem:

    PERMANENTLY BAN THE ONES WHO BUY THE GIL
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    In WoW you just get a little letter politely asking you to stop buying gold.
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    banning the sellers isn't the solution. go for the people who have the most to lose.
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    Cut it off at the head. Follow the trail and take the account with the majority of the Gil, they have to start all over again and purchase a new account.
    Permabanning the people buying it does nothing to the overall picture.

    Besides, everyone has dirty RMT Gil in their bags from somewhere. Be glad they're not gung-ho about it like before and start taking money/locking accounts for people being rich like they did at release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asierid View Post
    Besides, everyone has dirty RMT Gil in their bags from somewhere.


    Legit Gil and RMT Gil. And yet both spend the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asierid View Post
    Cut it off at the head. Follow the trail and take the account with the majority of the Gil, they have to start all over again and purchase a new account.
    Permabanning the people buying it does nothing to the overall picture.

    Besides, everyone has dirty RMT Gil in their bags from somewhere. Be glad they're not gung-ho about it like before and start taking money/locking accounts for people being rich like they did at release.
    Your Logic is flawed, since they make the gil so fast. Ever notice the cost of gil goes up after a ban? (Assuming you read your tell-spam) but they know that their accounts being banned is part of the pocess.

    by banning the people BUYING GIL, you are setting a standard of "Do not buy gil, or you won't play at all" If the Unholy Fear of godSqueenix is instilled in the hearts of all players, everybody will stop buying gil. When nobody is buying gil, RMT will stop, because it won't be profitable.

    The increasing amout of tells that we get, and the fact that there are growing #'s in consistent variations of set tells, as well as tells from characters that seem to be named in certain styles, tells me that the number of RMT GROUPS/businesses is increasing. More "RMT Businesses" Seem to be starting up, which could only be because it is so profitable for them.

    one day (I think it was shortly after a patch) I spent a few hours farming new materials released and crafted some items that sold for about 20 mil. At the realization of how much 20 mil was going for a the time, it dawned on me that I could make more money by selling gil than the average minimum wage american employee. If a 12-yr old in Vietnam could do the same thing for a year, he'd be set for life.

    The only thing to stop that 12 yr old from feeding his family is by dropping the ban hammer on people who buy gil.

    While I may have suddenly made this story morally conflicting to some people, ou must remember that my 12 yr old example a) he's a criminal b) he's usually being paid a smaller amount to some "Businessman" *cough* slaver, excuse me, whose really raking in the dough. Then again, since it can be profitable for Americans, I KNOW there are people in NA doing it as well.

    In both of my former FC's, I stated how strongl I was against RMT the moment I had joined, that somebody had discussed with me about how he sold gil on WoW and Eve, and had planned to do it in FFXIV. I told him that If I ever thoguht he was doing it on our server I would report him, and at a bare minimum, if he could not do it on our server, so that, hopefully, I could live an RMT-free life. he said OK, but then, he's Filthy RMT scum, so who can say?
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    I wish more tanks were like you also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iskander View Post


    Legit Gil and RMT Gil. And yet both spend the same.
    Get your dirty midas money out of here. D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    No more slap on the wrists. If you are blatantly buying gil it should be one strike and your out. If you want to quell the amount of RMT that's going on in this game, impose severe punishment for the people creating the problem:

    PERMANENTLY BAN THE ONES WHO BUY THE GIL
    Gonna devil's-advocate this one. I despise RMT, but consider this:

    This is a more difficult decision for game companies than you think.

    On some level, people who buy virtual currency still want to play the game. For some reason or another, they feel that in order to get what they want out of it, they have to turn to RMT. Still, because they're willing to put in what, as they see it, is still an investment, is something that game mods need to stop and think about before swinging the ban hammer.

    This is why temporary suspensions are handed out. It serves as a dissuasion. I wouldn't doubt for a second that if caught red-handed twice, they're out for good, but this is why they're getting a punishment that most would see as too lenient. Square-Enix wants to keep people who enjoy the game around, otherwise they get no money themselves. Thus, second chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahri View Post
    Gonna devil's-advocate this one. I despise RMT, but consider this:

    This is a more difficult decision for game companies than you think.

    On some level, people who buy virtual currency still want to play the game. For some reason or another, they feel that in order to get what they want out of it, they have to turn to RMT. Still, because they're willing to put in what, as they see it, is still an investment, is something that game mods need to stop and think about before swinging the ban hammer.

    This is why temporary suspensions are handed out. It serves as a dissuasion. I wouldn't doubt for a second that if caught red-handed twice, they're out for good, but this is why they're getting a punishment that most would see as too lenient. Square-Enix wants to keep people who enjoy the game around, otherwise they get no money themselves. Thus, second chances.
    perma-banning 102 players for buying gil would do more good than bad. losing 100 players here and there isn't a big deal. Letting RMT run rampant is.
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    While I agree that hash penalty's need to be taken agents people who buy the Gil because that would put a big dent in RMTs because no one would bother rusting it.

    Probly just out right banning is too far for a first offence a week or month account suspension then out right ban them on the next time they do it. There's no reason what so ever to be buying gil you joined the game after agreeing to the tos there by submitting to SE rules and allowing them to be both your judge jury and executioner if you break their rules.
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