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[AniCelestine]

I saw people saying "if you have thundercloud proc + first starter proc -> Fire III - > Fire I -> Thunder III "

Please explain that please.

Because from my reasoning, since thunder cloud proc could happen every 3 sedond you have thunder applied on a target(s) so if you don't use it as soon as possible (assuming no movement required anytime soon, so no need to save it) you could potentionally loose a proc because you waited longer than 3 sec and got 2 thunder procs in row.

So, why would "Fire III -> (potentially losing a thunder proc) Fire I -> (potentionally losing a thunder proc, but could get a new fire proc) [Fire proc came so Fire III(based on the earlier Fire III procs > Fire I > Thunder III we're going to use fire I again](potentionally losing a thunder proc) -> Thunder III" be better than "Thunder III ->(potentionally a thunder proc) Fire III -> (potentionally a thunder proc) Fire I" if you are in a situation where you have both procs up.

Note: if you'd got the thunder proc right after you used thunder III proc, you'll already be casting your Fire III/Fire I(assuming you're following the "always be casting" guideline) before it registers to you, so you're mostlikely not going to be doing Thunder III -> Thunder III -> Thunder III and then losing your AF III stack and thus fucling up your rotation.

[Dextro]

I saw people saying "if you have thundercloud proc + first starter proc -> Fire III - > Fire I -> Thunder III "

Please explain that please.

None of the replies for this have really mentioned the true benefit, so let me tell you that it's for the purpose of fire-weaving the next Fire I using the Thundercloud proc.

Thundercloud is the only ability that you can fire-weave with no dps loss if it fails, and the potential of gaining an additional GCD via a non-wasted Firestarter proc is much greater than throwing out the Thundercloud immediately on the off-chance of getting another (5%)proc within your next 2 GCDs.

[AniCelestine]

None of the replies for this have really mentioned the true benefit, so let me tell you that it's for the purpose of fire-weaving the next Fire I using the Thundercloud proc.

Thundercloud is the only off-GCD ability that you can fire-weave with no dps loss if it fails, and the potential of gaining an additional GCD via a non-wasted Firestarter proc is much greater than throwing out the Thundercloud immediately on the off-chance of getting another (5%)proc within your next 2 GCDs.

That makes alot sense, haven't thought of it that way. And yeah, thundercloud has really low rate ( and loses on dmg vs fire III if I remember right), thanks for clearing that one out!