Of Tanking and WoD

[Mahri]

u get that one person that facepulls everything and locks people out of the rooms... or the tank fighting for boss control... or the tank lack of control on trash rooms...

I make a habit of always checking "Join Party in Progress".

Thanks to this and getting locked out, I have discovered that /sdance matches the rhythm of the Cerberus/Xande/Phlegethon boss music perfectly.

[RhynAzullo]

The EU way for WoD seems to be this exactly, except for Cerberus. Cerberus goes:

A - Adds
B - Belly(get eaten)
C - Chains/MT

Unless, of course, you get that one person that facepulls everything and locks people out of the rooms... or the tank fighting for boss control... or the tank lack of control on trash rooms...

How I've seen JP groups do Cerberus is that A or C will get eaten, and the other will do the adds (one group will call out in alliance chat which one their group's gonna do). Then B takes the boss as usual. For chains it's usually just whoever is closest or starts moving in that direction first.

[EdwinLi]

The EU way for WoD seems to be this exactly, except for Cerberus. Cerberus goes:

A - Adds
B - Belly(get eaten)
C - Chains/MT

Unless, of course, you get that one person that facepulls everything and locks people out of the rooms... or the tank fighting for boss control... or the tank lack of control on trash rooms...

All DPS method seems to be the fastest of the strategies I've seen so far.

All DPS go into Cerb while all Tanks and Healers stay out side to tank and heal against Cerb and Adds. (1 healer can go in to keep the Unknowns from causing issues if they want but normally only 1 or 0 DPS players would die from a Unknown without a healer)

If the DPS know how to effectively DPS in Cerb belly then Cerb boss fight can be done in matter of 1 minute or less.

[Mahri]

I like going the DPS-get-eaten strategy too. It CAN be disastrous, but it's quick when it works. It's good for the first attempt at least.

One time, though, I accidentally got mini'd while main-tanking. It didn't really cause many problems but it was completely hilarious.

[Cenebi]

This is a legit gripe, but hard to reconcile. Nobody really wants to communicate intent beyond ready checks and just charging right in. I've run it so many times now that it no longer feels worth it to try. Just assume you're the MT. If someone steps up and keeps aggro steadily, particularly the bosses, then it's fine to step out and turn off Defiance/turn on Sword Oath and just whack things, but be ready to switch back into tank mode if that one dies.

Pretty much how I operate since I'm the most geared tank my WoD 9 times out of 10. It's pretty much the only way I've found to actually tank in WoD because any time I try to take a few seconds to clarify roles, a DPS will almost instantly shout "Just pull already!" because they're too impatient to wait 10 seconds to avoid a wipe.

[Synestr]

When tanking, I don't care either way which I do. Sometimes I do prefer to OT, so that way I know the adds situations will be handled. Too many times I have seen the OT's not perform duties correctly in those situations. So I let em tank. I grab adds. We all win.

[Kiara1]

It's only logical. But then again, I've heard some ridiculous stories about tanks trying to out-aggro each other in CT, surely just a myth hopefully.

oooh they do. My alt is a tank and isnt very high ilvl but I can still survive mt. Soo no one jumped in on first boss so I did. And it was fine until our warrior took hate from me. So I asked if he could remove defiance and got the answer "hmmmmmm no xd"
Later on Cerberus we went with ABC and I was gonna tank boss but he just provoked and took boss instead. I wish we could vote kick players from other groups because people trolling are just lonely people who wants to ruin others fun

[Mishini_Dracoto]

lol, I'm i120 or so, and a career WAR. I was tanking Second Coil before FCoB came out, and haven't really done any FCoB. that being said, when it comes to the Crysal Tower raid(s) I just assume I'm MT. Last night I was running Labrynth of the Ancients, and a couple times another tank came up, voked off of me, but didn't actually pull threat off me.

pro Tip for tanks: Use Provoke right before Rage of Halone/Butcher's Block. That will give you your best chance at sealing the deal on threat lock down. Don't voke, right before I use Butcher's Block lol.

Anyroad, I just typically assume I'm MT. If will run up, watch the map, make sure players are all in the arena (ready Checks are too slow) I'll take a pause to see if the other tanks are running in, but not a long one, before I just charge in myself. If somebody does pull threat and seem to want to MT, I turn Defiance off, make sure hey have full threat, and then wheel around to the side to avoid getting cleaved.

on primal (NA) I tpically see people using the Adds Belly Chains method on Cerb.

Picking your raid MT based on the party # you randomly get? eh, I guess it's a good enough method, but you can get i80 or lower tanks in LOTA, and I don't think it makes sense to let an i70/80PLD over an i120/i130 WAR. (I mean, we're talking about double the amount of HP. <3 SCH's lol)

^unless the i70/80 tank REALLY wants to, in which case, they can ask in /a, and I will be content to let them try. As long as the healers aren't pulling threat I have np dialing back.

[papichulo123]

i love to mt because i dont really have to deal with mechanics. but i dont like to die while being mt it ruins my reputation. hate when healers let me die. i always do a adds b belly c chains and mt but i would like to give all dps in belly a go

[papichulo123]

well i usually tank and if im on b and c tank is undergeared i state in chat ill mt