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    Player
    Rizon's Avatar
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    Quincy, Il
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    Rizon Cerberus
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 81

    Time to rethink the use of non lvl 50 dungeons

    I need 1 more dungeon to finish my current book for my Artemis bow. Unfortunately that dungeon is Brayflox Normal. At the moment the running time is 28 minutes. These dungeons were designed for player development to level 50. In today's Eorzea they are ill suited for high level gear and weapons progression. It is now time to rework the Relic Progression concept to meet today's players with an eye to 3.0 and beyond.
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    AskaRay's Avatar
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    Get some friends to run it with you.
    Queue up and go fishing, or watch a movie/TV episode.
    Log on during the off-time for your server, wait a full three hours for a low level, and then get back to me.

    Anyway there's lots of things you can do while waiting for a queue.
    (Don't be like me and queue an hour for a dungeon, then forget to equip your weapon at the boss..........)
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    Mimi91's Avatar
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    Mimi Celestyna
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    Tonberry
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    premade with your friend, speed run it, finish in less than 15 min per run
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rizon View Post
    I need 1 more dungeon to finish my current book for my Artemis bow. Unfortunately that dungeon is Brayflox Normal. At the moment the running time is 28 minutes. These dungeons were designed for player development to level 50. In today's Eorzea they are ill suited for high level gear and weapons progression. It is now time to rework the Relic Progression concept to meet today's players with an eye to 3.0 and beyond.
    You want fully redesign all the Relic progression, because you don't want wait 28 minutes? Of all the things I mark as 'exemplary' on forum, you got up straight to first place.
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  5. #5
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    SekhmetM's Avatar
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    Sekhmet Mubarak
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    If you don't want long queue times, don't main DPS.
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  6. #6
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    kyuven's Avatar
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 90
    What's funny is the Animus books have low level dungeons set as their requirement precisely because the queue times are long.
    Can you imagine how bad the queue times would be if no one had an incentive to do them after they outleveled them?
    Also, in 3.1, we have no idea how they're going to work the new relic except:
    1) It won't REQUIRE the current relic. Key word being require because...
    2) There will be SOME bonus to having the "old" relic at that point, but there are absolutely no details other than Yoshi-P's explicitly confirmation that they will be "taken into consideration."
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  7. #7
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    Jim_Berry's Avatar
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    Jim Berry
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    Malboro
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    Ninja Lv 90
    1) It helps new players get groups via DF.
    2) If the quest require only Expert-level dungeons, your wait time will be longer (even as WHM, I wait 20 minutes for Keeper of the Lake).
    3) People forget things in MMOs take time to get. This is one of them.
    (5)

  8. #8
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    Jordan Lewis
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    Mateus
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Heres the thing. You're gonna be hard pressed to find support when it comes to this type of stuff. I'm sure every single person has hated every single step of the relic quest until... they beat it. Then they don't care about the prior steps unless the plan on making a 2nd relic. I hated doing the animus books and would of signed a petition to have whoever came up with them fired. Now that I'm past that stage? Couldn't care less what they do with it.. It's also kind of backed with the "well it was hard for me so i want it to be hard for you mentality" seen most notably in people who do coil lol
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
    World
    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    Get some friends to run it with you.
    Queue up and go fishing, or watch a movie/TV episode.
    Log on during the off-time for your server, wait a full three hours for a low level, and then get back to me.
    He complain that he need 28 minutes to finish the dungeon, not that he have to wait 28 minutes to enter it
    Quote Originally Posted by Rizon View Post
    At the moment the running time is 28 minutes.
    In short, he want to faceroll the low level dungeons like the high level dungeons in ilevel 110+ gear.
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    Last edited by Felis; 02-09-2015 at 08:55 PM.

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    Reinfeld's Avatar
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    Character
    Typical Karen
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 62
    I'd just like to see the ability to que for your books on any Job. People can say that it's "helping populate low level ques" but that only applies to healers and tanks (as running as a DPS just saturates that role even farther). It would have been really nice if I could have just run Cutters Cry as my PLD. The low level players would get their pop faster, and I wouldn't have to sit in que for 55 minutes as a monk just to have tank leave after first pull.
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    Last edited by Reinfeld; 02-09-2015 at 09:20 PM.

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