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    Laurelin Kementari
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    Relic weapons have been upgraded from i80 to currently i125 in various steps... And are currently customizable to suit your other gear better. As content gets harder, relic gets stronger.
    The highest you can currently get as alternative without going into final coil is i115 with non-customizable stats or i110 crafted that you can somewhat customize with materia.
    The chance that a fresh 50 can "just learn" T5, T9 and T13 AND get the relevant drops in less time that it takes to complete a relic is extremely low.
    Bull. The much touted 'stat customization' of the relic is trivialised by the fact that only the richest can do it, thanks to SE thinking it was a fantastic idea to add RNG for the melds, after it already took a few eons to gather all 75 alexandrite. Most people don't go for the full melds simply because it is not worth the cost or the effort. A Diamon Spear will easily trump the average Gae Bolg Nexus, simply due to the fact that Diamond Spear has full secondary stats whereas most people don't fully meld their Novus because of the costs for tier IV materia. Even if you spiritbond all your materia yourself so you don't have to buy it, it's still gonna take forever to get all materia you need, on top of the immense hours of grinding for your Nexus light, followed by more materia spiritbonding to max meld all your crafters so you can craft your Zodiac weapon, which is again coupled to a super-fun RNG dungeon grind for boss drops.

    Be honest, if someone fresh at lvl 50 asked you what weapon to get, would you honestly suggest they go for the Zodiac one? When they can run Syrcus Tower for Unidentified Tomestones and get a soldiery weapon, or Shiva Extreme for a Diamond one, much faster and much easier? Sure, the hardcore, pure bis player will go for it. A casual player, however, will not. Relic weapon was touted as the weapon for the casual player to get over time, except the insane amounts of work and grinding with its meagre rewards for a Zodiac weapon is something only a hardcore player will do. At least for those who want the weapon when it is still relevant. Any other sane player would say 'eff that feces', and who could honestly blame them, when it's barely worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by seida View Post
    And? So don't do it. Why do all weapons have to be available for the same amount of effort...? as you point out, there are many other strong weapons available. If relic is too much effort for you, get one of those.
    For exactly this very reason. Relic offers no advantage over the other weapons, so why does it take such a ridiculous amount of work? For glamour? Well, so much for the 'legendary weapons!' when they've been reduced to insanely grindy glamour. It has nothing to do feeling 'entitled' to one. It is simply a case of the rewards not measuring up to the amount of work put into it, especially when compared to other content of the same level. What is so hard to understand about that?
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    Last edited by LaurelinKementari; 02-08-2015 at 10:16 PM.