SMN redesign in expansion?

[Zohar_Lahar]

Hope the devs will do something besides continue to ignore these 100's of threads. :/

They need to overhaul it with Heavensward, for certain. It doesn't feel enough like a Summoner, and doesn't properly distinguish itself from Arcanist like how Scholar does. And as ranged DPS, it feels very awkward compared to BLM.

[Zedd702]

They need to overhaul it with Heavensward, for certain. It doesn't feel enough like a Summoner, and doesn't properly distinguish itself from Arcanist like how Scholar does. And as ranged DPS, it feels very awkward compared to BLM.

I really agree with this. Summoner spamming poison and miasma seemed really odd to me, they shoulda been more along the lines of aetheric and elemental spells. I'd like to see shadowflare as a targeted AoE with a DoT element vs what is is now. They should've had spells like:

Pearl: (holy/spirit damage) to replace Ruin, but keep blind effect.
Demi/Demi II: small burst damage with a DoT (replace Bio & Bio II)
Pain/Meltdown: Damage plus heavy effect w/ minor DoT (Make comparible to Miasma/Miasma II and replace)
Whirlwind: could act like shadowflare does now, but it would be something along the lines of the tornadoes the dragon spawns in SV NM.

With something like the above this would still make use of Contagion, Bane & Fester, but make SMN a bit more tolerable to play. It's my favorite class in the game, but atm it is very lackluster in comparison to BLM and needs to be different in comparison to SCH/ACN

Also I miss thunder

[Dwill]

They need to overhaul it with Heavensward, for certain. It doesn't feel enough like a Summoner, and doesn't properly distinguish itself from Arcanist like how Scholar does. And as ranged DPS, it feels very awkward compared to BLM.

No they don't. You might not like the job but plenty of other people do. Summoner always differ between each Final Fantasy they appear in (White Mages with summons, Black Mages with summons, remove the party for remote control of the Summon, heavy nuker with nearly nothing else). This is just a different take on the job and if you don't like it, feel free to change job.