Lizard Squad Just hacked PSN and Xbox LIve again

[Ametrine]

If they really want to stop them, they should 'name and shame' their closest family members (parents, siblings), and force them out of their jobs and make it hard for them to find new ones. They might not think of the consequences to themselves but if you can ruin the lives of the people closest to them maybe that will make other people think twice in the future.

That's very much illegal and just genuinely a really shitty thing to do to people who just happen to be related to someone who chose to be a criminal.

Also, you do realize that if the FBI had access to such information everyone in Lizard Squad would already be in jail, right? Right??

[MilesSaintboroguh]

That's very much illegal and just genuinely a really shitty thing to do to people who just happen to be related to someone who chose to be a criminal.

Also, you do realize that if the FBI had access to such information everyone in Lizard Squad would already be in jail, right? Right??

FBI? Apparently they're no NSA cause those guys would be all over em by now.

[KodiHivaer]

Don't the Lizardsquad claim attacks AFTER they happen? PSN was temporarily offline for 20 mins.....

Pretty much, the first time it happened, it was FamedG0D who LS took credit from, FamedG0D then doxxed LizardSquad to the seven hells and left a message for them afterward telling them to ride on someone else's coat tails, then the second time it happened anonymous came in and ripped them a new one, then Gamergate screwed them over.

LizardSquad are pretty much a group of wannabe hackers that like taking credit for the work of others.

[Nestama]

I just signed into PSN just fine. Online and everything.

Relax people, there are no wolves and the sky is not falling... for now.

[HakuroDK]

In related news, Anonymous is currently having a feud with Lizard Squad. Anonymous DDoS'd their website and got two of their accounts banned from Twitter.

Just a matter of time before things start getting more serious.

[Kosmos992k]

FBI? Apparently they're no NSA cause those guys would be all over em by now.

I'm increasingly of the opinion that the NSA *SHOULD* be all over them by now. So many of these DDOS attacks and other low level nuisance attacks and even intrusions (actual hacks) involve foreign nationals acting outside the USA which places dealing with them squarely in the cross hairs of both the CIA and NSA, which begs the question, why aren't we taking these people down (I mean bringing to actual justice, not 'take them out' justice) in the most public manner possible to deter others?

If the attackers are resident in the USA, it would fall under the FBI's jurisdiction, but they could still bring in expertize from other agencies so long as it's done within the framework of the FBI's rules of operation.

Still, it kind of makes you wonder. Even if these agencies merely have the capabilities that Snowden and others claim - instead of the fanciful stuff portrayed on TV, they could easily be all over this. In which case, there has to be a reason why they are not in fact all over this. So either they are in fact not all they are cracked up to be, or it serves them in some way to allow these pinheads to continue operating.

SE uses similar tactics when going after RMT, they leave bots and others alone while they trace back to the source, then they take out the entire lot at once - though each RMT and their agents much be dealt with separately from other RMT. The point being, they have to leave the small fry alone for a while so they can find the big fish lurking deeper down.

I can only hope that as we move forward and things become ever more interconnected and dependent on the 'net, governments can finally realize that this stuff matters, even if it's only a bunch of script kiddies joyriding PSN or XBL into the ground. Without some form of enforcement and security within the overall world of the Internet, we are existing in a pretty lawless place where vigilante action is tempting because there is no other effective recourse. The problem is that vigilante action is at least as illegal as the original offense, so the person retaliating may in fact be caught and punished, even if the original attackers are not.

In related news, Anonymous is currently having a feud with Lizard Squad. Anonymous DDoS'd their website and got two of their accounts banned from Twitter.

Just a matter of time before things start getting more serious.

LOL, nice to hear that Anonymous is doing something constructive for once.

[Kotemon]

*sips coffee* ah the PC life
but in all seriousness why hasn't the lizard squad been shut down already im surprised at the lack of action regarding them and theirs

Maybe a century ago you could probably still jail or hang someone for bragging about things they may or may not have been part off or done. Today not much has changed on people bragging. If they post to twitter or anywhere to brag about it, you really can't do much unless you physically connect them to starting or causing the DOS, or any hacking. Out side the US you might be able to survey and get warrants for less. With du process, you either have or don't have the evidence, that's why this keeps happening. Honestly, the internet has embolden and produced more trolls, and @hole'z than at any point in history. Lets face it unless it really hurts Sony's bottom line, or exposes secret R&D, etc. they wont really care. PSN is sort of small in their company as a whole. If they really wanted to make a statement, they should try to pull this off on Nintendo. They're more likely to make heads roll for something like this.

[brody138]

LOL, nice to hear that Anonymous is doing something constructive for once.

What have they done that would not be constructive in their eyes? It's not like they go around randomly targeting people/organizations.

[Kosmos992k]

What have they done that would not be constructive in their eyes? It's not like they go around randomly targeting people/organizations.

I was voicing my opinion, not everything that group does is constructive in my opinion, though it may be constructive as far as they are concerned.

[HakuroDK]

LOL, nice to hear that Anonymous is doing something constructive for once.

Anonymous is kind of a "Robin Hood" type of organization, just more chaotic than good. They've done a lot of work that could be described as good, including the hacking of the government websites of middle-eastern despots and shedding light on acts of corruption and terrorism. Where their morality is up for debate is when it comes to things like hacking the Department of Justice in retaliation for going after NSA whistleblowers like Edward Snowden or DDoSing the Swedish Government's websites for their raid on The Pirate Bay.

Lizard Squad is definitely more of a "for t3h lulz" kind of organization that just like to piss people off because they're bored and greedy.

I think it's good that Anonymous is going after Lizard Squad and, while I don't always agree with Anonymous's methodology towards getting things done, but I do feel they are the far lesser of two evils as they do some work in support of civil rights that many organizations cannot do, at least publicly.