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    Quote Originally Posted by Faelandaea View Post
    People keep talking about these hackers like they are the ones causing issues. The real issue is if the company being attacked doesn't bother to take precautions to prevent such an attack in the first place. Either way, though, someone here did bring up a good point - this group only claims events after they are known to happen. I know of a couple of hacker groups that actually post on the boards their frigging schedule for attacks - before they happen ROFL. And the companies they go up against STILL dont put up extra security - and you know for a fact that companies see and follow those boards also.
    Look up what a DDoS attack actually is first. It's not like preventing people from invading your house and stealing your stuff, it's like trying to prevent people from walking through the beeping sensor at a store's entrance. Millions of times a minute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faelandaea View Post
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    Well then, Mr. Genius, how do you propose we stop a DDoS attack in its entirety?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mettaur View Post
    Well it's Lizard Squad, they typically DDoS. Pretty hard to prevent that without stopping it at the source.
    Pretty much this. They are blunt force overloading PSN's servers, likely from many different sources, so even if Sony knocks a few out, damage is done via the other sources.

    It's not exactly someone typing into a computer and flipping some off switch. Otherwise it might only take a few minutes for it to return to normal, but it doesn't. Hardware get's damaged.
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    If they really want to stop them, they should 'name and shame' their closest family members (parents, siblings), and force them out of their jobs and make it hard for them to find new ones. They might not think of the consequences to themselves but if you can ruin the lives of the people closest to them maybe that will make other people think twice in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Archer View Post
    If they really want to stop them, they should 'name and shame' their closest family members (parents, siblings), and force them out of their jobs and make it hard for them to find new ones. They might not think of the consequences to themselves but if you can ruin the lives of the people closest to them maybe that will make other people think twice in the future.
    Except that in itself is a criminal offense, especially if they're minors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Archer View Post
    They might not think of the consequences to themselves but if you can ruin the lives of the people closest to them maybe that will make other people think twice in the future.
    Why is this a good idea?

    Why should we ruin the lives of people who have nothing to do with this issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Archer View Post
    If they really want to stop them, they should 'name and shame' their closest family members (parents, siblings), and force them out of their jobs and make it hard for them to find new ones. They might not think of the consequences to themselves but if you can ruin the lives of the people closest to them maybe that will make other people think twice in the future.
    And dangerous thinking like that is how you make things go from bad to worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faelandaea View Post
    People keep talking about these hackers like they are the ones causing issues. The real issue is if the company being attacked doesn't bother to take precautions to prevent such an attack in the first place. Either way, though, someone here did bring up a good point - this group only claims events after they are known to happen. I know of a couple of hacker groups that actually post on the boards their frigging schedule for attacks - before they happen ROFL. And the companies they go up against STILL dont put up extra security - and you know for a fact that companies see and follow those boards also.
    Go ahead and try to effectively stop 1000 people from walking through your front door. "Close the door" you might say, well then you're stuck outside too. It's pretty much the same thing, you can't actively PREVENT a DDoS without making legitimate users unable to access either. It's a lose/lose, victim blaming solves nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiritto View Post
    Lizard Squad Just hacked PSN and Xbox LIve again
    hacked

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    I didn't say it was a morally ethical method of vengeance and deterrence, just an effective one.
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