Lizard Squad Just hacked PSN and Xbox LIve again

[Buff_Archer]

If they really want to stop them, they should 'name and shame' their closest family members (parents, siblings), and force them out of their jobs and make it hard for them to find new ones. They might not think of the consequences to themselves but if you can ruin the lives of the people closest to them maybe that will make other people think twice in the future.

[kyuven]

If they really want to stop them, they should 'name and shame' their closest family members (parents, siblings), and force them out of their jobs and make it hard for them to find new ones. They might not think of the consequences to themselves but if you can ruin the lives of the people closest to them maybe that will make other people think twice in the future.

Except that in itself is a criminal offense, especially if they're minors.

[Shamo_Lomenzo]

They might not think of the consequences to themselves but if you can ruin the lives of the people closest to them maybe that will make other people think twice in the future.

Why is this a good idea?

Why should we ruin the lives of people who have nothing to do with this issue?

[MilesSaintboroguh]

If they really want to stop them, they should 'name and shame' their closest family members (parents, siblings), and force them out of their jobs and make it hard for them to find new ones. They might not think of the consequences to themselves but if you can ruin the lives of the people closest to them maybe that will make other people think twice in the future.

And dangerous thinking like that is how you make things go from bad to worse.

[Ametrine]

If they really want to stop them, they should 'name and shame' their closest family members (parents, siblings), and force them out of their jobs and make it hard for them to find new ones. They might not think of the consequences to themselves but if you can ruin the lives of the people closest to them maybe that will make other people think twice in the future.

That's very much illegal and just genuinely a really shitty thing to do to people who just happen to be related to someone who chose to be a criminal.

Also, you do realize that if the FBI had access to such information everyone in Lizard Squad would already be in jail, right? Right??

[MilesSaintboroguh]

That's very much illegal and just genuinely a really shitty thing to do to people who just happen to be related to someone who chose to be a criminal.

Also, you do realize that if the FBI had access to such information everyone in Lizard Squad would already be in jail, right? Right??

FBI? Apparently they're no NSA cause those guys would be all over em by now.

[Kosmos992k]

FBI? Apparently they're no NSA cause those guys would be all over em by now.

I'm increasingly of the opinion that the NSA *SHOULD* be all over them by now. So many of these DDOS attacks and other low level nuisance attacks and even intrusions (actual hacks) involve foreign nationals acting outside the USA which places dealing with them squarely in the cross hairs of both the CIA and NSA, which begs the question, why aren't we taking these people down (I mean bringing to actual justice, not 'take them out' justice) in the most public manner possible to deter others?

If the attackers are resident in the USA, it would fall under the FBI's jurisdiction, but they could still bring in expertize from other agencies so long as it's done within the framework of the FBI's rules of operation.

Still, it kind of makes you wonder. Even if these agencies merely have the capabilities that Snowden and others claim - instead of the fanciful stuff portrayed on TV, they could easily be all over this. In which case, there has to be a reason why they are not in fact all over this. So either they are in fact not all they are cracked up to be, or it serves them in some way to allow these pinheads to continue operating.

SE uses similar tactics when going after RMT, they leave bots and others alone while they trace back to the source, then they take out the entire lot at once - though each RMT and their agents much be dealt with separately from other RMT. The point being, they have to leave the small fry alone for a while so they can find the big fish lurking deeper down.

I can only hope that as we move forward and things become ever more interconnected and dependent on the 'net, governments can finally realize that this stuff matters, even if it's only a bunch of script kiddies joyriding PSN or XBL into the ground. Without some form of enforcement and security within the overall world of the Internet, we are existing in a pretty lawless place where vigilante action is tempting because there is no other effective recourse. The problem is that vigilante action is at least as illegal as the original offense, so the person retaliating may in fact be caught and punished, even if the original attackers are not.

In related news, Anonymous is currently having a feud with Lizard Squad. Anonymous DDoS'd their website and got two of their accounts banned from Twitter.

Just a matter of time before things start getting more serious.

LOL, nice to hear that Anonymous is doing something constructive for once.

[brody138]

LOL, nice to hear that Anonymous is doing something constructive for once.

What have they done that would not be constructive in their eyes? It's not like they go around randomly targeting people/organizations.

[Kosmos992k]

What have they done that would not be constructive in their eyes? It's not like they go around randomly targeting people/organizations.

I was voicing my opinion, not everything that group does is constructive in my opinion, though it may be constructive as far as they are concerned.

[brody138]

I was voicing my opinion, not everything that group does is constructive in my opinion, though it may be constructive as far as they are concerned.

I personally like Anonymous. They are very reactive to situations that happen all over the globe, and usually have a pretty good reason for the actions that they take. I can definitely understand a difference in opinion. Some people like Batman, some people hate vigilante justice. =]