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  1. #761
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    Yup its 385, but this requires that you have minimal to no lag. If you're used to having quite a bit of lag I would shoot for ~400 as the cutoff. No more than that, especially since with the current gear sets you don't need to decide between Acc or SS, you can get minimal acc cap for T13 and still have 385/400 SS or less. Someone posted a BiS earlier in the thread that meets the SS and Acc cap, which is what I'm shooting for.
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Well, it might be worth mentioning that the monk in question's preferred minimum skill speed is 454. (That is not a typo.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    Hey, so I wanted to revise the previous opening rotation I posted here. Wonder if anyone can test it out, as I have to rely on static members to parse since I play on the Ps4.
    My opener is ToD > PB > Demo > snap x2 > Twin > DK > B4B > BS > IR > True> Howling Fist > Snap > BS > Twin > Demo

    Fracture I pretty much use only when B4B or IR is up. On T13 my B4B comes a little later due to the first Mega-Flare so I weave it into the rotation depending on when I take damage. Sooner If I take damage on the initial hit, later if I get ringed and have to stack.

    Ilvl 126 600 deeps on dummy without pary or pots/food. 560ish in FCoB. Also for perfect timing in reapplying dots you have to take into consideration the time it takes to apply the effect. eg ToD can start applying when the present ticks to 2 and by the time the effect sticks the timer will have just run out keeping it more constant.
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    Damien Nellemond
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    Hello, I have a really quick question.
    Should I let ToD and demo "fall off"? Like let the icon disappear or reapply when there's around 4 seconds left? It seems the dot doesn't apply right as I push the button, but when the animation finishes, which takes a few seconds.

    I was a dragoon for quite a while but tried monk again (I had monk to 50 quite a while before drg, but played drg) just for fun. I found it a lot less stressful because there's not as many skills to weave and stuff. Right now I'm really confused. I thought I loved dragoon. Neither are my main (it's scholar) but I'm done getting the gear I needed, I'm only crossing my fingers for my fcob gear now. I don't know what to do .-.
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    I'm sorry, I'm on my phone and I can't figure out how to edit.

    I hadn't read the post before mine. forget I ever posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    Well, it might be worth mentioning that the monk in question's preferred minimum skill speed is 454. (That is not a typo.)
    It's funny you say that. I was testing the opener at something like 462, and thought to myself how it was crazy i had to super speed mash the 2nd demo to get it off b4 the buffs fell off.
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    Is there a link to Lucrezia's 454 SS monk's gear?
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  8. #768
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    Here's one of 'em. (Replicated on Ariyala's). Nice name change lol. As you can see, exactly 454 skill speed.

    The bootshiner whose askbox I read is retired from world-first stuff (for now) and is on another server entirely. ...and didn't log out as a monk today I guess.
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  9. #769
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    Butta Stackz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanelle View Post
    Is there a link to Lucrezia's 454 SS monk's gear?
    Furthermore, does the MNK have a youtube page with recent clears? Lucrezia's main page is very outdated (probably intentionally) and i'd love to see some of their strategies with maxed out gear. Their PLD recently put up 438 on T10 and their NIN pushed 600 ish on T12 from what i recall. The MNK was in the 580s.

    Edit - I just noticed he has a link to his twitch page on his lodestone.

    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    Here's one of 'em. (Replicated on Ariyala's). Nice name change lol. As you can see, exactly 454 skill speed.

    The bootshiner whose askbox I read is retired from world-first stuff (for now) and is on another server entirely. ...and didn't log out as a monk today I guess.
    His Kaiser Knuckles have 35 Det, 31 ACC, 17 SS! Guess the JP MNK community have their own views on optimal Zodiac melds?
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    Last edited by PROBOUND; 02-03-2015 at 03:54 AM.

  10. #770
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    I doubt that it's for any reason other than to hit a specific skill speed, and with my limited knowledge of the language most of my investigations into whether JP MNKs actually like skill speed have only turned up debates on it. Pretty much the same points come up that come up in English-language discussions (hope your bard likes you, makes GL3 maintenance so ez, etc.). I'm guessing despite what has been stated in Live Letters (which might even be based on analysis of player data), it's more like a school of thought than a consensus.
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