there's a lot of sensitive people in this game

[Sapphic]

aye lot of that too. even when trying to politely help people get better with their class it's usually met with nothing but aggressive behavior. so bad i just gave up on trying to help people with classes i know a lot about. not worth the annoyance anymore

Then people complain they aren't getting help...

@ OP, my first ime in a dungeon as healer, I'll not DPS much due to not knowing when spike damage will come, also if a DF tank, chances are I wont DPS on the first pull due to too many tanks not knowing what defensive cooldowns are for, aka they dont use em XD

If tank stays healthy during first pull and I know the dungeon, then I'll be DPSing as much as possible while rotating buffs on Eos so she can keep people alive while I pewpew, of course swithcing to drop an Adlo if needed then switch back to DPS.

But, when players know the dungeon and just stand doing nothing for a large part of it, don't they get bored? Or they are FFXI players where you stand around doing nothing anyways for soo much of the fight. Stun SCH for the snooze XD

[JaydeDancer]

Healers should not be expected to DPS. They are healers, they heal. It is up to the melee and ranged DD to kill the mobs. If they can't do it, then that isn't on the healer. It is on you.

If this has happened to you before, have you ever considered that maybe it is you and not everyone else?

[aisustrong]

Then people complain they aren't getting help...

@ OP, my first ime in a dungeon as healer, I'll not DPS much due to not knowing when spike damage will come, also if a DF tank, chances are I wont DPS on the first pull due to too many tanks not knowing what defensive cooldowns are for, aka they dont use em XD

If tank stays healthy during first pull and I know the dungeon, then I'll be DPSing as much as possible while rotating buffs on Eos so she can keep people alive while I pewpew, of course swithcing to drop an Adlo if needed then switch back.

why not selene?

[Dashuto]

"waaaah my feelings are more important than DISCUSSING anything or being polite both ways WAAAAH"

the door has to swing both ways

[Sapphic]

why not selene?

Eos>>>Selene XD

Magic damage reduction buff so less damage to heal, means I can pewpew more, extra AE heal/hot, buff mu heals and Eos so my Adlo and Succor shields for more, so I can pewpew more ^_^ Pop Fey Illu+Rouse and Eos heals like a baws XD

Eos, overall brings more than Selene, which has been tested and calculated that BLM gets the most benefit from Selene and that is about a 1% DPS increase, Whereas Eos allows the SCH to DPS even more. Not to mention, like in t13, Fey Covenant for giggleflare saves a aetherstack for other uses.

I call it giggleflare :P If he did a pelvic thrust while casting, t'would be called Giggityflare!

[Chiramu]

Eos>>>Selene XD

Magic damage reduction buff so less damage to heal, means I can pewpew more, extra AE heal/hot, buff mu heals and Eos so my Adlo and Succor shields for more, so I can pewpew more ^_^ Pop Fey Illu+Rouse and Eos heals like a baws XD

Selene is better with a high population of magic dps with spell speed buff. Skill speed buff wouldn't be as useful but if you have a lot of melee or bards it would be useful to use it.

[Ladyaceous]

Healers should not be expected to DPS. They are healers, they heal. It is up to the melee and ranged DD to kill the mobs. If they can't do it, then that isn't on the healer. It is on you.

If this has happened to you before, have you ever considered that maybe it is you and not everyone else?

Let's be real here. You have to dps no matter what you're playing to even finish the story or get anywhere at all in this game. By the time you get past the first few dungeons, if you don't know how to switch to an enemy and throw an aero out or something you're just bad (not you).

And asking if this has happened before in an mmo is alittle naïve don't you think? Stuff like this has happened to me more than once because the internet makes people suck. Are you saying internet people don't suck and everyone saying people are mean online have shiny foil hats?

I mean come on man, be real about this.

[Sapphic]

Selene is better with a high population of BLMs with spell speed buff. Skill speed buff wouldn't be as useful but if you have a lot of melee or bards it would be useful to use it.

Fixed :P SpS is useless for SMN.

4 peeps, wouldnt take 2 BLMs, no point. 8 peep? Wouldnt take more than 1 BLM or SMN. Also no point ^_^ SCH doing 200-250 DPS is more than a 1% increase to BLMs DPS, just sayin ^_^

With the promised upcoming changes to SpS and SkS in 3.0 Selene may become overall more usefull depending on how they change it to, supposably, make it as usefull as det/crit, but for now Eos>>>>Selene XD

[Ladon]

I don't understand where this concept that a good healer isn't expected to DPS. If you are sitting on plenty of mana (which any healer in any of these dungeons will always be) and are twiddling your thumbs as you wait for the overgeared tank to actually take enough damage to need a heal then you are not a good healer.

You are free to believe that you don't have to DPS as a healer all you want, but you are going to be considered bad at your job just as I would consider a tank that doesn't bother to get out of AEs or face enemies away from the rest of the party a bad tank regardless of how good they are at holding hate.

As for the OP: Any good Bard that actually uses Foe's is going to ask why the healer isn't bothering to take advantage of the song. You got kicked for a stupid reason.

[Inflorescence]

I have been playing this game for over a year now, like many people on these forums, and I have never been kicked from a party.

Why? Because I know how to play games with other people without forgetting social etiquette.

Things you could have done to make the situation better:

1.) Not communicated with a single word. In almost every situation, one-word questions/commands/requests are rude and abrasive. In fact, there is a word for it: "curt." Wait for the pull to be over, and then engage in polite conversation.

2.) Not told someone how to play their role for your own convenience. There is a line between being a senior player mentor, and being a know-it-all overbearing jerk. The line is hard to find sometimes, but a good place to start is usually when everyone is dead. And the line is certainly far before "Holy?"

3.) Played the game without trying to micromanage your party. It kind of goes hand in hand with the last point, but your philosophy on what your role is within the team is totally skewed. You're not the Tactician Supervisor that is going to get fired from your job if your General Manager doesn't like how long your runs are taking. Some runs are going to take longer than others, but as long as you make it through (heck, even if you don't), everything is going to be okay.

You acted selfishly in a team-based activity. I wouldn't kick you out in their situation, but I certainly would hope that we wouldn't party together again. "This is the internet" and "I could have been worse if I wanted to" are also terrible excuses for anything. You weren't polite, and certainly weren't being the "protagonist" you seem to be trying to portray yourself as.