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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Either way, I don't see how this really has much to do with the whole 'early pull' discussion
    I'm pointing out how early pullers are harming themselves and actually generating LONGER waits for hunts, which are the very thing they claim to want to avoid by pulling early.

    Really, you (the general "you") only hurt yourself by discouraging players to search for the mobs by ensuring it takes ever longer to find the mob...
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    I'm paraphrasing your post, but it does not alter the meaning.
    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    They only hurt themselves by discouraging players to search for the mobs by ensuring it takes ever longer to find the mob...
    I agree with you, however I feel that the majority of people will react in this manner;

    "I don't believe it. Prove it to me and I still won't believe it."

    ...and then many will add "Kill the heretic!", since you want to infringe on their 'right' to leech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    ....and then many will add "Kill the heretic!", since you want to infringe on their 'right' to leech.
    .. and then many will add "Kill the heretic!", since you want to infringe on their 'right' to troll, disrupt everyone else's play, and early pull for lulz.

    And at the same time they won't allow us to name and blacklist the troll and won't even want us to talk about tactics to stopping them trolls on the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    And at the same time they won't allow us to name and blacklist the troll and won't even want us to talk about tactics to stopping them trolls on the forums.
    Yes, because nothing bad could come out of a bunch of self proclaimed Hunt vigilante whose evidence would be based on their biased one-sided story spiced with emotional elements to stir the forum toward making the gameplay of other players worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    ... their biased one-sided story spiced with emotional elements to stir the forum toward making the gameplay of other players worse...
    We re trying to make gameplay better for everyone, whereas the early pulling troll is getting their lulz from pissing everyone else off. You can see them make trouble at marks after marks and make positive identification of the troll early puller. When the troll is caught lying their with their corpse because the hunt groups knows to hold their fire and let the elite kill them and not res them, there is no bias or one-sided story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    We re trying to make gameplay better for everyone, whereas the early pulling troll is getting their lulz from pissing everyone else off. You can see them make trouble at marks after marks and make positive identification of the troll early puller. When the troll is caught lying their with their corpse because the hunt groups knows to hold their fire and let the elite kill them and not res them, there is no bias or one-sided story.
    The game would be better for everyone without you playing. Why? Just because I say so which is no different than the stance your taking in which you think you get to dictate your own rules and guidelines then think you have the right to impose those rules on everyone else despite you having no such right. If someone does not obey you, you think you have the right to abuse, harass and create a lynch mob to harass that other player, beating them down until they either leave the server or do as you want. Your vindictive, vicious and arrogant. Your also hypocritical as I proved earlier in the thread between your stance on dungeons, raids and DF/PF vs your stance on Hunts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    ...and then many will add "Kill the heretic!", since you want to infringe on their 'right' to leech.
    Heh, I won't argue that, though the problem isn't the leeching so much as the impatience when the mob is eventually found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    Heh, I won't argue that, though the problem isn't the leeching so much as the impatience when the mob is eventually found.
    Oh, I meant to add that waiting for 60 seconds or less after a mark is found before attacking it surely does seem like a very short wait - you definitely have a point about that.

    On the other hand if a hunt party of 8 find a mark and can beat it, why not? It will be more of a fun fight. I mean, when the hunts were not the favored way of farming things, a party of 8 could happily hunt and engage a mark without annoying the aetheryte campers or anyone else.

    The difference now is that the horde has returned - one of the reasons I seldom hunt, and very, very rarely participate in anything involving an A or S rank mark. I probably hunted more after 2.4 and before 2.5 made it fashionable to hunt en masse again. I'll probably wait for it to die down again before participating much in the future. I find it very disappointing to be involved in a hunt for an A or S rank mark, only to see it melt in seconds.
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