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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlgaFlow View Post
    I thought that too until a pre-made stacked Cometeors with atleast 2 of them hitting a sleep which staggers you long enough to make it virtually impossible to dodge and I consider myself a very careful player.
    This is the only really problem with caster LB but its not the LB its the fact its a premade, most people in this thread would not have issues with caster LB but because caster lb is "slightly" easier to coordinate its the go to set up. once its nerfed to hell, which is will because the OF always gets its way, they will be back complaining about how a team of 6 mnk/drg/nin is unfair and they need to nerf thier LBs now.

    What SE really needs to do is separate premades like in wolfs den, or make an 8 man wolves den and keep frontlines to solo queue only.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagam View Post
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    What does this actually prove of the nonsense you seem to believe that is correct? You know what you posted actually is right?

    This is the rate the gauge naturally fills up by itself by doing multiple actions, you know when in Titan Hard mode on the relic days people just waited auto attacking to wait for the LB bar to fill up, that's what that you just posted is, This doesn't include the adrenaline bonus gained by the kill rate, this does not include the Battle high bonus that is gained by killing players in a row, here let me enlighten you with the same source you posted:

    Battle High: Damage dealt increases by 20%, and the adrenaline gauge fills 1.5 times faster

    Battle Fever: Damage dealt increases by 40%, and the adrenaline gauge fills two times faster.

    "Im tired of arguing with people that have proven many times they have no clue how to play the game." L O L
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  3. #63
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    Corvus Lament
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    "Im tired of arguing with people that have proven many times they have no clue how to play the game." L O L
    Some people enjoy talking with themselves, since they are the only one who would agree with how great and wise they are.

    For the most part, everyone else has been relatively respectful towards one another. Of course most people who can exercise a bit of reason, agrees that cometeor is in need of a change. Even the devs agree with it and said its current cast time is a mistake. So I don't understand what is to debate about it.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domira View Post
    Some people enjoy talking with themselves, since they are the only one who would agree with how great and wise they are.

    For the most part, everyone else has been relatively respectful towards one another. Of course most people who can exercise a bit of reason, agrees that cometeor is in need of a change. Even the devs agree with it and said its current cast time is a mistake. So I don't understand what is to debate about it.
    I enjoy discussions, because they end up giving ideas that developers can see what the source of discontent is, I have just never seen a person, that agrees, then contradicts his own opinion in less than 30 mins, it's majestic and stupefying at the same time.
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    What SE really needs to do is separate premades like in wolfs den
    You realize that they arnt separated at all? there is just a queue for party vs party

    You can still make a party and stomp randoms, but you get penalized
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    L O L
    It proves you have no clue what you are talking about, I replied to what YOU think, YOU think the team as a whole gets a faster bar just by being in 1st which like everything else you say is wrong. And I know how to read, I know battle high and fever, I have it for most of the fight, but why would I tell ppl like nins to save their LB and use it on those walking billboards that have battle fever. If the other team has multiple casters with it and you have melee dps you deserve to have comet spam.
    so again.

    Im tired of arguing with people that have proven many times they have no clue how to play the game
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagam View Post
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    You are so sad, first, if any spelling error was made, my native language isn't english, and I'm afraid to say that when I read what you post, you seem to have the spelling and the writting skills of a prep school child.

    First you agreed, when someone else said that the rate the LB bar is filling up is broken and how it was logic I wasn't willing to understand, then I state I agree with his opinion and suddenly it's like NOPE, I'm gonna contradict myself to prove Evtrai wrong, it's actually funny.

    I'd love to see this stratergy of yours in action, I'd pay to see this in execution just for the sake of amusement
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    I enjoy discussions, because they end up giving ideas that developers can see what the source of discontent is, I have just never seen a person, that agrees, then contradicts his own opinion in less than 30 mins, it's majestic and stupefying at the same time.
    Before slaughter mode was implemented, these same people will say how they own on their BLM and never lose to melee unless they are zerged. Who ever loses to a melee as a BLM is a baddie.

    Now since slaughter mode came out and BLM/SMN are overpowered, they will say how casters were useless in secure mode. (So this means they were losing before slaughter mode came out). And who ever loses to BLMs spamming cometeor are baddies. Narcissists are always right in their own minds.

    Anyhow, yeah I agree about what you said. The cool thing is one of the threads about slaughter mode is being monitor and they are going to give our feedback to the devs. Thats great that the devs actually listen, in most games they do not.
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    Last edited by Domira; 01-29-2015 at 06:03 AM.

  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlgaFlow View Post
    Honestly, I personally feel that the proper move that players should do is to make their own pre-mades because pre-mades are the ones who come up with the strategies that people eventually follow and right now, on Aether Data server, the only ones who came up with effective strategies are the Flames which is why they're dominating right now. I have my own LS but I don't have enough people who play regularly enough to inspire a change in my GC so I'd have to keep recruiting until I find that mix.
    /threadhijack

    I'd like to take a moment to applaud you for not being butthurt like others seem to be lately concerning the use of premades. The name of the game is organizing and strategizing, God forbid people succeed at it. Since you're on Sargatanas, I might be able to point you in the direction of some good Maelstrom players if you're interested.

    /endthreadhijack
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domira View Post
    Some people enjoy talking with themselves, since they are the only one who would agree with how great and wise they are. For the most part, everyone else has been relatively respectful towards one another.
    No, some people are just tired of the game getting nerfed to hell because of the incompetence of the OF population. Caster LB is fine, melee LB is fine, if you want to nerf caster then you better nerf melee as well. The first week lots of ex pvp casters got to go back because for once we don't get gang raped just walking into a post, on top of actually being useful the more you have, now a week later caster lb is not the be all and end all, the smart players can sneak in/jump/dash and LB the battle fevered blm instantly stopping the comet spam but that seems to be a strat that is far to advanced for most around here.

    As for civil? im not the one so butt hurt I need to make gifs to make myself feel better. They clearly cant have a discussion without crying.

    The debate isn't about the cast time, if you seriously think these threads will be gone next week you're sorely mistaken.
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