Adrenaline skill balance

[Xenosan]

Yeah you're right, it is an ineffective gamble. Conversely, a team could focus fire a target and push out thousands of damage to have the kill credit snatched by a third party.

Not likely. If you're bursting properly their health should be going straight to zero so there is zero chance it can be stolen or that they can be healed.

..edited for quotation

additonal edit:

I really swear by /assist. I want to maximize my dps, and with how crowded it is up top, trying to target a specific enemy turns into a complicated game of click the pixel. The more time I spend trying to find my target, the less time I have to actually deliver damage. (and it's critical time lost as well, as they are at any moment going to be healed, break range, or be killed by opposite faction).

[DividedSky]

Increasing cast time WILL make a major difference. People will be able to dodge it. The blm my only hit 1-4 I stead of 8+ because cast time is slower. They can still aoe sleep etc but that only goes so far. Increasing cast time will balance things out a lot more than people think

[CeveArthu]

What SE really needs to do is separate premades like in wolfs den

You realize that they arnt separated at all? there is just a queue for party vs party

You can still make a party and stomp randoms, but you get penalized

[Atreus]

I actually was more looking at the BLM part, and was in kind of disbelief that even you really believed that part to be true. Even in Secure, BLMs were fantastic to have around, especially if they had the cover of sufficient healers and maybe a SMN partner. You're right, stacking them was pointless if that's what you meant, but stacking melee sucked too. They're SMN fodder the way they swarm targets.

Secure gave reasons to bring a varied party, including the limit break. Slaughter promotes stacking. Adrenaline is fun, but total garbage.

EDIT: FURTHERMORE... SquareEnix shat on BLM's Swiftcast Flare to discourage BLM stacking, yet here this mechanic is.

[Synestra]

I actually was more looking at the BLM part, and was in kind of disbelief that even you really believed that part to be true. Even in Secure, BLMs were fantastic to have around, especially if they had the cover of sufficient healers and maybe a SMN partner. You're right, stacking them was pointless if that's what you meant, but stacking melee sucked too. They're SMN fodder the way they swarm targets.

Secure gave reasons to bring a varied party, including the limit break. Slaughter promotes stacking. Adrenaline is fun, but total garbage.

Aye having a raid like party setup was pretty damn good for secure, atleast 1 tank for VIT bonus 2 healers and 5 dps. I still think this setup has its place in slaughter but it would kinda require pre-made party to work properly, tanks should be the ones that overextends to make room for melees while range and healers support them. Sometimes this works with randoms but its rare.

[Srab]

melee LB should get more dmg tried to lose my LB for 90% hp dmg .. after i use my LB i get 31565 sleep 4452 blind and 3562 stun so IM DEAD to see Enemy run with 10%hp .. or they should let me move after LB i dont know why i cant leave my place for 2-3sec after LB

[PotatoTree]

melee LB should get more dmg tried to lose my LB for 90% hp dmg .. after i use my LB i get 31565 sleep 4452 blind and 3562 stun so IM DEAD to see Enemy run with 10%hp .. or they should let me move after LB i dont know why i cant leave my place for 2-3sec after LB

LB does a lot already, if not too much. I think the caster one should do maybe 30% dmg, and the meele one 70%. Currently without a specific build it is a 1 shot. There is very little the opponent can do to react fast enough to stop it, especially if you stun first. They both need to be slower too, so that the opponent can dodge it or CC.

I'm not saying the mage LB isn't OP already, but the melee one is too. A LB shouldn't mean free kills on any job. There has to be a setup beforehand, and there has to be a counter. Otherwise good players can't show any skilled play, and doing frontlines is just a roll of the dice if you die or not. Slower LBs with less damage, or removing LBs entirely would raise the skill bar, both on the attacking and defending side.