FFXIV Ultimate Healer Targeting Macro; or Gamepad Done Right!

[raela]

Well, you could put these macros on xbar 4 if you left it as shared amongst classes. If the crossbar set macro would slurp macros from the menu, you could do this exact thing. I tried to set this up for my SCH to change xbar 2 depending on fairy summoned. :/ Dunno why SE won't let us do that. ; ;

I have fairy summon macros that change which embrace is set to a xbar - you can place skills with macros.. or maybe I misunderstood? I have a CS/xbar swap macro that I love using.. I've just had to learn to pay attention to make sure it went through correctly. Often times, my problem is I panic when I'm in CS and someone's hp drops too fast, then I hit a heal - the xbar swaps first, and if you use a skill too soon, it kills the macro and CS isn't used. I've built muscle memory to manually swap hotbars when this happens (so I did one heal in CS, I'll use the macro again to kill CS and swap the hotbar back where I want it. keeps it to one CS per bar)

I personally love how healing is.. on another MMO, I did kb/mouse, then swapped to a controller using a third party program to map the keys (as the game was not designed for controller use). Soft targetting is awesome.

[Gardes]

Often times, my problem is I panic when I'm in CS and someone's hp drops too fast, then I hit a heal - the xbar swaps first, and if you use a skill too soon, it kills the macro and CS isn't used. I've built muscle memory to manually swap hotbars when this happens (so I did one heal in CS, I'll use the macro again to kill CS and swap the hotbar back where I want it. keeps it to one CS per bar)

You know, have you tried /macrolock? I haven't gotten around to using this. Apparently it prevent other macros from cancelling currently running macros until it finishes. I've seen switched back to non /chotbar change for stance dancing but I imagine this could possibly prevent CS not deactivating..

As for crossbar sets changing depending on pets summoned, I use /chotbar copy. For example, if I use hotbar1 for main spells, h2 for pet spells, I would have my eos spells on h3, selene on h4 (shared ticked off). The on my eos summon macro I would put (/ac summon; /chotbar copy sch 3 sch 2) and for selene summon it would be (/ac "summon II"; /chotbar copy sch 4 sch 2) and then for the final touch I would set the set selection option to enable chotbar 1 and 2 only so that when I tap the set select trigger (R1) it would only rotate between hotbar 1 and 2 (3 and 4 would be the hidden template that's never messed with during battle).

[raela]

You know, have you tried /macrolock? I haven't gotten around to using this. Apparently it prevent other macros from cancelling currently running macros until it finishes. I've seen switched back to non /chotbar change for stance dancing but I imagine this could possibly prevent CS not deactivating..

Yeah, I tried using this once.. it actually made things worse. It prevents the casting of any skill while the macro is going and still can get the bars swapped around wrong. Without it, messing up the swap can result in heals under CS.. with it, heals won't go through and you can't instantly swap again (if you hit it by accident/want to swap back for whatever reason).

[Gardes]

Yeah, I tried using this once.. it actually made things worse. It prevents the casting of any skill while the macro is going and still can get the bars swapped around wrong. Without it, messing up the swap can result in heals under CS.. with it, heals won't go through and you can't instantly swap again (if you hit it by accident/want to swap back for whatever reason).

Well that's what would naturally happen if your heals are made of macros. The /mlock locs out other macros from running after all. I tried the setup with no macros on healing and attack spells but the issue of targeting came up and I fixed it with adding target switching on the 2 stance macros themselves. Turning on cleric would make my target jump from main tank to his target (likely the boss) and turning off cleric would make my target jump from the enemy boss to its target (hopefully the main tank) or number 2 on my party list as a fail safe. That part seems to be working well for me so far after a couple dungeon and trial roulette runs (including titan hm).

[raela]

Well that's what would naturally happen if your heals are made of macros. The /mlock locs out other macros from running after all. I tried the setup with no macros on healing and attack spells but the issue of targeting came up and I fixed it with adding target switching on the 2 stance macros themselves. Turning on cleric would make my target jump from main tank to his target (likely the boss) and turning off cleric would make my target jump from the enemy boss to its target (hopefully the main tank) or number 2 on my party list as a fail safe. That part seems to be working well for me so far after a couple dungeon and trial roulette runs (including titan hm).

None of my heals are macros.. I thought a bit on this more and I think I remember the issue. Macrolock isn't aware of a skill's cooldown, so if you use it without a wait, you can still screw up CS. If you add in the wait, now you can't quickly drop out of it if you switch and need to go back to healing right away. If you add the wait only for going into CS but not out, you can still manage to get out of sync. In the end, it was an extra layer that didn't help me at all.

[Gardes]

None of my heals are macros.. I thought a bit on this more and I think I remember the issue. Macrolock isn't aware of a skill's cooldown, so if you use it without a wait, you can still screw up CS. If you add in the wait, now you can't quickly drop out of it if you switch and need to go back to healing right away. If you add the wait only for going into CS but not out, you can still manage to get out of sync. In the end, it was an extra layer that didn't help me at all.

Ah but turning CS on triggers its cool down for 5 seconds. Putting a /wait 4 or 5 in the CS on macro (which is the point of the macro; no point in locking if you dont lock it for how many seconds) shouldn't even matter because once you go into CS you can't get out of it for 5 seconds. Putting a /wait 4 or 5 in the CS off macro would disallow you from going back to CS for that many seconds which seem to be a non issue to me because when you turn off CS, you want to be healing someone right away, no? At least from my perspective, it's better to be locked out of CS than to be locked in CS in any scenario where you want to be in the opposite stance.

My only issue right now is that I have set select button to only ever go to 1, essentially making a set reset button instead of set scrolling. Useful for how I do things in tanking and dps modes but if I accidentally press this button while healing, it goes out of sync with my stance (being in cs and hotbar 2 for dps and then accidentally resetting to hotbar 1 for healing without turning off CS) but that is not a macro issue but my own controller settings and habits issue.

[Sadana]

I have fairy summon macros that change which embrace is set to a xbar - you can place skills with macros.. or maybe I misunderstood?

You can place skills with a macro, but you can't place macros with a macro. So, for example, an Embrace + Physick macro can't be placed with the chotbar set command.

[Jakeson]

no complaints personally about using the d-pad to change members. I like your system, it's inventive, but it seems like you're literally doing the same thing I'm doing, and prone to the same errors, but you have two less spots on your hotbar. I personally just use the main hotbar and hotbar 8 with the LT+RT and RT+LT combo. I've gotten quite accurate at it and don't make many errors.

I used to heal in everquest online adventures...you had to scroll through members with R1, if you missed one you had to go all the way through. Granted they were only 4 player parties, but it led to a lot of errors. I think there was a combo button to go back a member, but I don't remember and probably never bothered to learn it.

Kudos?

[radioactive_lego]

no complaints personally about using the d-pad to change members. I like your system, it's inventive, but it seems like you're literally doing the same thing I'm doing, and prone to the same errors, but you have two less spots on your hotbar.

Error reduction comes from not having to press and release the shoulder buttons to (de)activate the chotbar. Less finger strain because of this as well. I am prone to the same errors of targeting the wrong person, HOWEVER, I will never jump, switch chotbars, cancel or open my chraracter drop-dn menu because my chotbar wasn't active. It's always active.

Not being able to target while moving is an error as well.

And as you can see in the vid, I manage my chotbars pretty well (I'm not any more reliant on spell macros than the next elf).

[Cutie_McSnuggles]

I will never jump, switch chotbars, cancel or open my chraracter drop-dn menu because my chotbar wasn't active.

Um.... I never have this problem.. ever... and I don't use your method.