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  1. #161
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    Kinseykinz's Avatar
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    Isagael Rose
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    Sagittarius
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Definitely, tanks and healers have it a lot easier because they generate more threat and do less damage, so basically they allow more people to get full credit. I don't understand why so many people hunt on DPS classes.
    Because it's what they have leveled.
    Because they were in the zone doing something else that required being on the DPS role (ala ATMA/FATE BOOK etc farming)

    And most importantly, because the content wasn't designed to be TANK/WHM only.

    But typically, those not coming as either tank or heals are doing it because they either don't have those specific roles leveled, or because they are also doing something else as DD while farming Hunts.
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  2. #162
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    Xellos2099's Avatar
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    Flame Colonel
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    To be completely fair, not everyone have tank or healer lvl. Some people are dps for lives.
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  3. #163
    Player Buff_Archer's Avatar
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    Buff Archer
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    Sadly this is what I've resorted to for DPS'ing an A or S rank if I'm already where I can change class with no cooldown since I don't have a tank or WHM at 50, it lets me use Flash pretty much instantly with no MP concerns after tagging it with an instant:
    - Class: Lvl 50 Arcanist
    - Cross class ability: Flash (you really can cross-class Flash onto base Arcanist class, hell you can even cross class it onto Conjurer.)
    - Pet: Topaz Carbunkle on Sic (for enmity attacks)
    - Hit target with Bio (because it's an Instant and can't afford to waste any cast times on abilities that actually do damage vs. earn you more credit), then simply spam Flash, Flash, Flash, Flash, etc. until you need MP, then Aethyrflow and Flash, Flash, etc...though realistically target will be dead long before you have MP issues.
    - Monster defeated by the shining white glare from your grimoire, job well done.
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  4. #164
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    Ashkendor's Avatar
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    Because it's what they have leveled.
    Because they were in the zone doing something else that required being on the DPS role (ala ATMA/FATE BOOK etc farming)

    And most importantly, because the content wasn't designed to be TANK/WHM only.

    But typically, those not coming as either tank or heals are doing it because they either don't have those specific roles leveled, or because they are also doing something else as DD while farming Hunts.
    I've seen plenty of people that I know came right from town (or at the very least, teleported into a nearby sanctuary) and I know have tank/heal classes go in as DPS. That's what I don't understand. What you end up with is a ton of people crying about how fast the mobs die while playing classes that make the mobs die faster. xD
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  5. #165
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    Backflippinbadger's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Drysfoet Bhaldaegsyn
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    I just gave up on hunting in gilgamesh for the next month or so until it slows down a bit. If you're not using third party software you're just not getting there in time.
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  6. #166
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    viipper45's Avatar
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    Viipeer Aurriga
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 50
    This rubbish about yelling for early pullers ? well maybe if more people would scout and stop waiting in town for others to do the work, why do people that find the mob have to tell you where it is and where do you draw the line at waiting ?

    But as people seem to have to be spoon feed this is not going to happen any time soon!! so the only way I can see to help, would be make this boss harder to kill, my gear has increased but the HP on the mobs has not!!
    Or make it that you have to farm spawn items to pop a S rank that should sort the lazy players, but I am sure people will whine that they can not farm the items.
    Or to really slow the hunts down level sync all the gear to the mobs level and make the mobs a fight again and not just a mass murder by players
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    Last edited by viipper45; 01-27-2015 at 03:08 PM.

  7. #167
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    LunaHoshino's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Luna Hoshino
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Backflippinbadger View Post
    I just gave up on hunting in gilgamesh for the next month or so until it slows down a bit. If you're not using third party software you're just not getting there in time.
    Untrue. If you're actively hunting (as in, actually going to the zones where the hunts are going to spawn and looking for them), it's quite easy to get there in time, and I say this as someone with average loading times so bad that there's a running joke in my FC about me always being stuck in loading hell.
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  8. #168
    Player
    Darske's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Darske Aldrech
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    People really need to chill out with the whole "everybody who finds a hunt needs to hold it" mentality. Nobody's obligated to hold something for you, especially somebody who doesnt know you even exist until you start complaining. I sure as hell ain't gonna bend over backwards to appease some random stranger just because their jimmies get rustled when they miss out on something.

    Seriously people, get over yourselves.
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  9. #169
    Player
    Radacci's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Austen Bloodspatter
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    "Early pulling" doesn't exist. People can pull whenever they feel like. If you aren't there, well, sorry to say, too bad. If I see a hunt with my friends, I'll pulling the thing. I'm not waiting for half the server to show up just for me to get a bronze if I'm lucky. This same crap happened with Dark Devices. People would *gasp* complete the FATE and get called out for it. If I'm there with a party (or solo, depending on the mark), I'm pulling. Noone is under ANY obligation to wait.
    you can get silver-gold, solo...there's no reason you'd get bronze, if you're with friends; kinda lame excuse to pull at your convenience, and screw over lots of other ppl. you wouldn't pull an A-S rank, if you were there alone, so you're just selfish.
    if you're in a group, you share contribution; it happened on several occasions, where i come a bit late to a mark, get 1 hit-gold.

    you don't loose anything, if you wait. if you're hunting, the other marks aren't gonna spawn faster, if you pull whenever you feel like it.
    sure, you're not under any obligation to wait, but....why not wait and give more ppl the opportunity to get seals?
    early pulling doesn't change anything, anyway. i was solo, and pulled an A rank, and still got bronze; so if you're afraid to get bronze, you'd get it even if you pulled early.
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    Last edited by Radacci; 01-27-2015 at 06:27 PM.

  10. #170
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    RichardButte's Avatar
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    Richard Butte
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    you don't lose anything
    Exactly this.

    The extra 60 seconds you may wait gives a huge chunk of people a chance to get seals and there's literally no benefit to you to pull without waiting. It doesn't help the next hunt spawn any faster or anything, and due to the way hunt windows work, it won't really help THIS mob respawn any faster, either.

    That said, public shaming is really the only weapon we have against early pullers. So until SE gets off their asses and makes hunt mob HP scale so that it takes ~2 minutes to kill each hunt mob regardless of how many people are fighting it, I say shame away.

    Maybe some of these people will get sick of the hate and stop doing it, cause they're sure as hell not going to stop without any encouragement to do so...
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