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    Quote Originally Posted by KoutaAtaire View Post
    Justin Bieber has 2.7 million likes on his Baby video while Rachmaninoff's 3rd played by Argerich does not even have 10k. I guess, judging from the number of likes, this means Baby is a work of genius and Rachmaninoff's 3rd is garbage.

    I enjoy Hildi but fallacies don't belong here.
    I agree with Ashkendor. The fallacy is not with the amount of likes contradicting what people really feel. You have to look at the medium being used to collect that data.

    Truth is, there are people that like Justin Bieber, and those people are more likely to use Youtube -- younger people. Those that listen to Rachmaninoff would barely even consider visiting Youtube. If classical music was as hugely popular today as other genres that are currently relevant are, it might be a different story -- because younger audiences would still be listening to it. Youth have always dominated top lists for music.

    The majority of likes on youtube music videos are from young people -- the target audience for pop artists like Justin Bieber.

    The majority (entirety?) of likes on these forum posts are from FFXIV players -- the target audience for hildibrand.

    Hating on Justin Bieber is the in thing to do, but clearly there are people who actually like him, and a considerable amount. It's become a stereotype, of sorts, to criticize young pop artists. But Hildibrand doesn't have that same stigma about him. All feedback points to the hate on him clearly being a minority response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpedify View Post
    I agree with Ashkendor. The fallacy is not with the amount of likes contradicting what people really feel. You have to look at the medium being used to collect that data.


    Hating on Justin Bieber is the in thing to do, but clearly there are people who actually like him, and a considerable amount. It's become a stereotype, of sorts, to criticize young pop artists. But Hildibrand doesn't have that same stigma about him. All feedback points to the hate on him clearly being a minority response.
    No seriously, Hildibrand IS the Justin Bieber of FFXIV content, cheap, stupidly popular for reasons my adult (classically trained in music btw) brain can't fathom. It's a beyond stupid questline. I have literally hated every moment of it. But unlike 'Bieber Fever' I don't really have a choice to avoid Hildy without making my game play harder. I need to complete the storylines in order to access my daily roulettes fully. I don't HAVE to listen to the Beibs to enjoy music as I see fit.

    I don't care that he stays, goes, dies, morphs into a butterfly (Hildy or the Biebs). If people like this very stupid story, more power to them...but don't force it on the entire playerbase. Make it like the Moogle delivery sideline, updated every patch, but doesn't effect anyone's game play who chooses to avoid it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    But unlike 'Bieber Fever' I don't really have a choice to avoid Hildy without making my game play harder. I need to complete the storylines in order to access my daily roulettes fully. I don't HAVE to listen to the Beibs to enjoy music as I see fit.

    I don't care that he stays, goes, dies, morphs into a butterfly (Hildy or the Biebs). If people like this very stupid story, more power to them...but don't force it on the entire playerbase. Make it like the Moogle delivery sideline, updated every patch, but doesn't effect anyone's game play who chooses to avoid it.
    I do actually agree that the trial roulette shouldn't be locked by hildibrand content. They didn't put odin on the trial roulette, so they don't need to put the hildibrand trials on there either. I have no argument with that, but that's a completely separate issue to the point of this thread. If the petition was to separate trial roulette from hildibrand quest line I would sign it without second thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    No seriously, Hildibrand IS the Justin Bieber of FFXIV content, cheap, stupidly popular for reasons my adult (classically trained in music btw) brain can't fathom.
    Hildibrand is more akin to the Three Stooges than Justin Bieber. And a lot of adults loved the Three Stooges in their time (which was LOOOONG before Bieber existed). Slapstick is just another form of comedy. It is no better nor worse than any other, just an alternative. Some people laugh at sitcoms, some people laugh at stand-up, and some people laugh at slapstick.

    And just to let you know, I too am classically trained in music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    stuff
    I'm an adult. I play classical piano and guitar. I find Hildibrand hilarious, though I can see why some may not find it amusing. The trials are a lot of fun, if a bit gimmicky (I'm looking at you, Dragon's Neck). I do agree with you that the trial roulette shouldn't be gated behind the Hildibrand quests, though.
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