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    There's actually a maximum number of a single DoT that can be applied to a single target. I can't remember the exact number, but on WoD runs with more than 6 bards and pretty much every S rank ever, getting my DoTs, especially Venomous Shot, to stick is a chore and a half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    There's actually a maximum number of a single DoT that can be applied to a single target. I can't remember the exact number, but on WoD runs with more than 6 bards and pretty much every S rank ever, getting my DoTs, especially Venomous Shot, to stick is a chore and a half.
    thats not what OP is talking about. there are certain enemies that flat say immune to venomous bite. like one other person said, the crystal in turn 7 is immune, as are the rocks in coperbell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    Bard poison is the same as any other DoT. Nothing that isn't invulnerable is immune to any of them.
    I can guarantee you 100% certainty that the nails in ifrit ex are immune.
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    Yeah, I don't really like how some things are immune to it, because it's not even consistent (like the Ifrit's nails example; they are ONLY immune in the extreme mode, as far as I remember). There's also other sorts of not-alive targets like boxes in FATEs and such that can be poisoned (?), but others that can't.

    There's also some enemies that are immune to Windbite but susceptible to Venomous Bite, although the examples are fewer (I think) and I'm not thinking of any right now.

    I think they should just probably get rid of these sorts of immunities, to be honest. It already doesn't make any sense that BLMs are killing Ifrit with Fire, after all, so I don't really think the "you shouldn't be able to poison a box!" arguments really hold much water in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    thats not what OP is talking about. there are certain enemies that flat say immune to venomous bite. like one other person said, the crystal in turn 7 is immune, as are the rocks in coperbell.
    I know what he's talking about, but a number of the replies AFTER cite examples where the number of stacks would make it seem like immunity is taking place because the boss doesn't register the DoT
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereticBliss View Post
    Pretty sure you're either missing the shot (what's your accuracy?) or that the buff simply isn't showing up. When there's a ton of debuffs on the target I've noticed the venom doesn't show up while the Windbite still does.
    My accuracy without food is 532. I would find it awkward for me to miss anything outside of Bahamut prime with that accuracy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    The White Magestones in Amdapor hard are probably immune. Also the rocks in Copperbell hard. Both of those are also immune to Spirits Within (you get a No Effect message)
    It does the no effect, but it does the upfront physical damage. The DoT doesn't apply.

    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    I know what he's talking about, but a number of the replies AFTER cite examples where the number of stacks would make it seem like immunity is taking place because the boss doesn't register the DoT
    The DoT applies as my understanding. The DoT isn't displayed because the maximum has already been displayed. The way you can tell it's already applied, is that your DoT won't reappear on the mob until it complete wears off even if there are available visible spots on the debuff bar.
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    There is no reason this should ever be a thing.

    SE, fix this.
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    Most inorganics that are immune to dots have very low health, so your dots wouldn't have a chance to tick very much anyway. I kind of thought that making them immune was SE's way of saying "just kill it quick with straight shot". And bards in LotA usually stay on the pad to kill adds, so maybe it just went unnoticed by the devs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airashii View Post
    But Ninja still gets their 20% damage from Poison. And Summoners/Scholars can put diseases on these.
    Ninja don't have a poison DoT. Only as a selfbuff.
    It increase the dmg you do by 20% (selfbuff), but it don't increase the dmg the target get by 20% (debuff on the target)
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    Last edited by Felis; 01-25-2015 at 07:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    thats not what OP is talking about. there are certain enemies that flat say immune to venomous bite. like one other person said, the crystal in turn 7 is immune, as are the rocks in coperbell.
    Uh no to the second?
    They definitely can be Poison Arrowed, me and my Mates even made fun of how that's possible or in what way it makes sense.
    Haven't checked for Turn 7.
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