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  1. #41
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    If you got the bandwidth you can just host your own Mumble server on your pc, server client is free as well.
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  2. #42
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    Areku Foxfire
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    You realize there are public servers for vent, right?

    There's no reason to not use voice chat, communication is never a bad thing. Don't get why people are anti-social in an MMO.
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  3. #43
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    N'ico Yazawa
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    You realize there are public servers for vent, right?

    There's no reason to not use voice chat, communication is never a bad thing. Don't get why people are anti-social in an MMO.
    Because not EVERYONE actually NEEDS to be told what to do every 10 seconds in a fight to do their job properly. Players such as myself under perform with voice chatting due to it being a distraction greatly inhibiting our ability to focus on the fight. I need to be looking at myself, my skills, bosses, boss mechanics, other players, player debuffs, listening to sound queues. Otherwise I fall into a slump where I'm unable to pay attention at all.

    I understand there are many players who might perform better with the constant communication feedback of VOIP and I respect your play styles, I really do. I'm just getting frustrated that MY playstyles are frequently not respected. Can't join this group or that group cuz VOIP REQUIRED and I know I'll just play like absolute garbage if I was in a VOIP. I also wonder how many other people have difficulties playing with people talking to them in real life / VOIP and are not even aware they have this issue... My husband actually found out he plays better when he mutes people in the voice chat. Surely there can be some middle ground where the people who need voice queues can be there and the people who can pay attention on their own can be outside the VOIP.
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    Last edited by Elusana_Celah; 01-22-2015 at 07:13 PM.

  4. #44
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Petition for Sony to have its console chat services able to port over to PC seamlessly. Until that happens, OP's wishes are pointless.
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  5. #45
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    Mewchat Bogz
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    People are complaining that the latency to SE servers in Canada is bad, that they (the servers) can't handle the load with too many error 90000 disconnection, the duty finders always full at peak time and you want to put some voice services on it ?
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  6. #46
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    I think a group with voice chat, considering there level would be the exact same, will always progress way way faster than a group without it. This is when both groups know nothing about the fight etc..

    After a couple of weeks, when people broke in to the content, the voice chat becomes less viable. You've been there, talking about other stuff while raiding. It becomes more social (adda to the fun factor I'd say) than the firts week. I think this is when you don't need it anymore. I still would since is just more fun imo.

    I also think that people who are able to talk and play (good), are of more value than someone in tunnel vision mode. On voice chat you can make adjustments on the fly or think steps ahead with them knowing. For me it adds to the encounter, but it's just what I'm used to. Some people play better when they go mute mode. To each its own.
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  7. #47
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    I don't want to hear random kids while I play this game.
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  8. #48
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    Ren'li Heise
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    -Technical issues, no server upgrades would make it work properly, they would need an ISP upgrade which is too expensive.
    -Harassment.
    -Preferences, even if some people see it as and advantage others don't for several reasons, implementing it as an in-game feature would make it mandatory for some people who don't want to use it.
    -the possibility of using free and paying VOIP sofwares.

    If i remember correctly these are SE's reasons to not implement it, and i agree with them all, so if you want voice chat use one of the lot you have on the internet, i prefer to see my money invested in content instead of a tool which is not needed and will cause more troubles than anything.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by abzoluut View Post
    I think a group with voice chat, considering there level would be the exact same, will always progress way way faster than a group without it. This is when both groups know nothing about the fight etc..

    After a couple of weeks, when people broke in to the content, the voice chat becomes less viable. You've been there, talking about other stuff while raiding. It becomes more social (adda to the fun factor I'd say) than the firts week. I think this is when you don't need it anymore. I still would since is just more fun imo.

    I also think that people who are able to talk and play (good), are of more value than someone in tunnel vision mode. On voice chat you can make adjustments on the fly or think steps ahead with them knowing. For me it adds to the encounter, but it's just what I'm used to. Some people play better when they go mute mode. To each its own.
    Why is it more value if you are able to make adjustments on the fly or "think steps ahead with them knowing"? A raid leader identifies issues and devises strategies that work based on the issues at hand. Strategies get discussed at the start of a fight and every player is accountable for knowing what they need to do and figuring out how best they can personally execute these strategies. A good player will identify where he or she has messed up and will adjust accordingly or will be informed what the mistake was by a more knowledgeable player (assumed to be the raid leader).

    If someone requires instantaneous feedback all the time to do their job, might be time to replace him or her since having to babysit people to keep them remembering that they have a job to do and focus on what they should be doing is counterproductive and adds unnecessary stress and animosity. VOIP is convenient for discussing strategies before a raid in the event you have a group of people with reading comprehension issues. I personally have a listening comprehension issue where words fly over my head and I often miss or forget things as someone is talking to me whereas in writing I can pick it up fairly easily and have something to reference back to.

    I agree with you that the conversations can be great fun. I used to do voice chatting when I played League of Legends which required a lot less concentration than a raid boss in an MMO (IMO lol) and we had so many good times in there. But MMOs pull me into the world and I just sorta want to forget real life exists when I'm sitting in here so even if I could focus well enough in a VOIP during raids, I probably wouldn't anyways.
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    Last edited by Elusana_Celah; 01-22-2015 at 08:58 PM.

  10. #50
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    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    A 24 man raid with voice chat. Surely nothing will go wrong there.
    Ive done 25 man raiding with pugs using VOIP in WOW, its not really bad as you think, but most guilds use it for their own purpose and its a lot more controlled then you think, raid leader has right of speak and before a pull, members can voice a suggestion quite easily or call outs.
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