Odin and the dps check

[Kuwagami]

Remembering the event version, the only time healers had to really dps was the zantetsuken race at the end (but noone got damaged at that time so np). At least if the party is half decent.

But then again, it seems to be a fight where you have to avoid any single avoidable damage to have a good chance to clear it

[Yumi_umi]

Remembering the event version, the only time healers had to really dps was the zantetsuken race at the end (but noone got damaged at that time so np). At least if the party is half decent.

But then again, it seems to be a fight where you have to avoid any single avoidable damage to have a good chance to clear it

And expecting that in df where it is first released unlike how extreme versions are only pre made allowed and soon put in df on the next patch. I guess se is just ramping up the difficulty for casual content Xp

[Yumi_umi]

there was a famous thread where Yumi got bashed for that in 2.1's early days iirc ^^ Talking about running T1/T2 and Pharos sirius (back when people were complaining it was too hard). It has become some sort of running gag now, just like some other famous figures on the forums



Intensive fights are good ^^

One can only hope they won't become total faceroll when people get used to mechanics though

I'm surprised u guys remember XD
But yeah i'll still try it onwards post 3.0 cuz its for science!

[Damane]

Nah i'm healing it fine and was taught to throw out some dps here and there but we always reach the end but the dps just doesn't seem enough. I thought this was suppose to be content for casuals and is not included in the endgame coil tier right?
Healing it is fine but when dps start to get hit by things then you know ur either going to have to decide between healing them or prepping the tank for that tank busting move. Forgot the name lol. When casual content requires healers to dps then you know we atleast deserve to be adressed with a more suitable ilvl req.

the dps check isnt that tight, in the end everyone can go full DPS on it, cleared on 2. try with the cast bar being at 66%. there is no healing in the end part so i dont see the issue why us healers shouldnt dps ¬.¬ (I am a sch).

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Hey look, people suddenly are realizing that DPS is everyones responsibility and not solely actual DPS.

[LionKing]

I cleared Odin first try, with my friends, 1 tank methods. Average ilv 110 for the whole pt..

And actually,meeting DPS check requirements still fall heavily on DPS because they were built with the idea of having 4 DPS able to kill it, without the help for DPS from Tanks nor Healer. So yes, kill job is still DPS responsible. Having help from the Tank or the healers certainly make the job easier but if DPS have to rely on that extra bit DPS to make or break the fight, you fail at the job. The only job DPS has is...DPSing and if you can't even do that...Well you are bad !!!

[Parodine]

It'll be easy enough to PF farm though if you want. No need for the extra tank slot. Like Titan HM all over again.

[Welsper59]

Hey look, people suddenly are realizing that DPS is everyones responsibility and not solely actual DPS.

Mmm maybe it's just me, but when I heal, I always look at that as "I need to DPS to speed this up" or "I need to DPS because we're not doing enough", rather than "I need to DPS because it's part of the mechanic/design".

[Katsaria]

I basically do consider him Odin Extreme at this point (even though the Auto Translate is "Urth's Fount (Hard)"). Yes, mechanically he's super simple to learn - but from the couple groups I've been able to get together and attempt it with, he requires a lot more than i95 gear to meet the DPS/healer checks involved.

Though I bloody loved the fight but I think I'd rather heal second coil because Einherjar or the Slow AoE straight into his tank buster is terrifying.

Let's be honest here. It's not the fault of the gear.

[Zaft]

Mmm maybe it's just me, but when I heal, I always look at that as "I need to DPS to speed this up" or "I need to DPS because we're not doing enough", rather than "I need to DPS because it's part of the mechanic/design".

That's why we have cleric stance. Healers are designed to be supplemental DPS when they do not need to heal or conserve MP. SCH especially. Dem DoTs.