Odin and the dps check

[Velox]

That's why we have cleric stance. Healers are designed to be supplemental DPS when they do not need to heal or conserve MP. SCH especially. Dem DoTs.

Actually Cleric Stance exists so a Healer can effectively do solo content. Without it, certain fights would take too long to DPS down. As a healer, the mob must be dead fast because you lack the defensive capability of a tank (and you can not stand there for 10 minutes taking hits, and even if you can heal through it, MP becomes an issue), so to compensate SE gave them a skill to bump up their DPS to feasibly solo quests.

I'm not saying I disagree with the idea of a healer assisting with DPS if he/she has the MP or feels confident enough to. I'm merely pointing out the error in the majority community's understanding of the buff.

[Damane]

Actually Cleric Stance exists so a Healer can effectively do solo content. Without it, certain fights would take too long to DPS down. As a healer, the mob must be dead fast because you lack the defensive capability of a tank (and you can not stand there for 10 minutes taking hits, and even if you can heal through it, MP becomes an issue), so to compensate SE gave them a skill to bump up their DPS to feasibly solo quests.

I'm not saying I disagree with the idea of a healer assisting with DPS if he/she has the MP or feels confident enough to. I'm merely pointing out the error in the majority community's understanding of the buff.

no cleric stance exists, so healers can contribute in phases where there isnt much healing needed not only for solo purposes, every fight almost has those phases. A healer is primary a healer, but he should aim to add DPS to the table too when the time calls for it/the battle allows it. The same applies to tanks, they are primary tanks, but they sholdnt neglect DPS totally either.

however most fights dont need a nukeing healer, when their DD members and tank members do their job good (with the ecxeption of some FcoB fights).

[LionKing]

I cleared Odin first try, with my friends, 1 tank methods. Average ilv 110 for the whole pt..

And actually,meeting DPS check requirements still fall heavily on DPS because they were built with the idea of having 4 DPS able to kill it, without the help for DPS from Tanks nor Healer. So yes, kill job is still DPS responsible. Having help from the Tank or the healers certainly make the job easier but if DPS have to rely on that extra bit DPS to make or break the fight, you fail at the job. The only job DPS has is...DPSing and if you can't even do that...Well you are bad !!!

[Parodine]

It'll be easy enough to PF farm though if you want. No need for the extra tank slot. Like Titan HM all over again.

[Darkobra]

I cleared Odin first try, with my friends, 1 tank methods. Average ilv 110 for the whole pt..

And actually,meeting DPS check requirements still fall heavily on DPS because they were built with the idea of having 4 DPS able to kill it, without the help for DPS from Tanks nor Healer. So yes, kill job is still DPS responsible. Having help from the Tank or the healers certainly make the job easier but if DPS have to rely on that extra bit DPS to make or break the fight, you fail at the job. The only job DPS has is...DPSing and if you can't even do that...Well you are bad !!!

Apart from the support some DPS classes bring. But you'd know about that. If you actually weren't carried every dungeon.

[Purrfectstorm]

I haven't done the fight yet but I've heard you can silence Einherjar. I'll get back to you when I know for sure but maybe someone will try it before I get a chance to anyway.

[BobbinT]

When I 1st entered this fight as NIN i108 and hoping I could farm lights on my novus, we keep failing this several times. After like 5+ fails, I decide to switch to my BLM which already has zodiac weapons. Strangely, the fight went smooth. lol

[AiChyan]

Its a cake walk as long as people dodge and dps push out as much dps as they could on adds. The first time I did it we failed repeatedly and people kept on blaming us healers for letting them die. Its like it went over their heads that they should be killing adds faster than they were doing. My second attempt went smoothly though, especially with people dodging properly so that the only real damage on going is from the bleed debuff & the big attack on tank (forgot its name).

[KandyKitten]

In the Fan Fest, they mentioned the BRD silencing one of the moves. Apparently nobody knows or forgot, and that's why it gets hard. But if they do it, it's easy.

[AiChyan]

In the Fan Fest, they mentioned the BRD silencing one of the moves. Apparently nobody knows or forgot, and that's why it gets hard. But if they do it, it's easy.

I heard that in this version silencing/stunning is not possible and you got to deal with the mechanic, but worth testing I guess.