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  1. #221
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    Volsung's Avatar
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    Adell Raynes
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    As some one that likes FF games, and knows that the humor of hildy lines up with much content throughout
    FF (ultros, I'm looking at you) I don't see why this is still going. It is classic. It breaks up the seriousness.

    I'm not asking to make less hardcore content in favor of more hildy. But I will take a stance if people want
    less hildy in favor of more hardcore. There is a reason there are separate teams working on these. Its
    so content comes out for both crowds. Its cool you dont like it. But they do have to please everyone, and
    outreach more to the larger crowds.

    EDIT-> we should be avoiding this us vs them casual vs hardcore nonsense, as long as they make content
    for both camps, they can get money from both camps and continue to provide both groups good conent.
    personally im in the middle road, i love crystal tower large raids and pvp.
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    Last edited by Volsung; 01-17-2015 at 04:17 AM.

  2. #222
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    Eros Maxima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izsha View Post
    Golden saucer is optional, coil is optional. So no one would care if coil gates saucer right? See how dumb that logic is? There's no harm in just keeping it separate. I don't see why there's a big push back to untie it from duty roulette or untie it from saucer. Why is that so unpalatable exactly?
    There's at least a couple reasons why Coil is separate from everything else though. I would hope you'd be able to figure out what they are. You're literally thinking of things that are irrelevant to each other simply because of the "optional" word being thrown around. It's not a strong argument on your end by doing that, since it ignores any legitimate causes for why things are this way. Pause for a second and consider that there are reasons why things are the way they are. I'll start you off by emphasizing how popular Hildibrand is, who the target audience is, how enjoyable the Greg (and Ultros) fight was for the majority of the player base, and that those fights are mandatory to progress through this popular quest chain.
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 01-17-2015 at 05:41 AM.

  3. #223
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    Kuwagami's Avatar
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    There's at least a couple reasons why Coil is separate from everything else though. I would hope you'd be able to figure out what they are. You're literally thinking of things that are irrelevant to each other simply because of the "optional" word being thrown around. It's not a strong argument on your end by doing that, since it ignores any legitimate causes for why things are the way this way. Pause for a second and consider that there are reasons why things are the way they are. I'll start you off by emphasizing how popular Hildibrand is, who the target audience is, how enjoyable the Greg (and Ultros) fight was for the majority of the player base, and that those fights are mandatory to progress through this popular quest chain.
    even simplier.

    Greg is a trial
    Dragon's neck is a trial

    There is a trial roulette.

    let the magic work
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  4. #224
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    Krr's Avatar
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    Murah Jhida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taruinatho View Post
    i guess the tag brought you here
    Yeah I'm not a regular general discussion poster here or anything.
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    video games are bad

  5. #225
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    I'd like for the main scenario cuscenes to have as much....animation as the Hildebrand. Granted, Hildebrand is over the top and the main story is really just alot of talk. Still, it'll be nice to have more action scenes in the main story
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  6. #226
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    Squa11_Leonhart's Avatar
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    Kaya Yuuna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    You realize your attitude is part of the problem right? You just essentially asserted that all good players capable of doing those fights are elitists. You're wrong, and you have a crappy attitude about it if that's what you think. It's just as bad as the actual elitists you don't like. Just because players are skilled and coordinated enough to complete fights does not automatically make them elitists. The ability to do those fights is a skill. Elitism is an attitude. They are not mutually exclusive. There are plenty of people out there with the skill that don't have the elitist attitude. If this is the attitude you have I'm glad you don't do those fights. It's always the player like you who causes the most drama in the tougher fights because they throw little temper tantrums when things get tough. Then they blame it on all the "elitists" and storm off. I never have those issues with the "elitists."
    my fc's scholar can solo heal most of the ex primals and is up to T13.

    Elitist is the one thing he is NOT.

    So i agree with Tiggy, your attitude is whats bad Elusana, and you won't find the party, fc, server, civilisation that will want to carry you through content by maintaining it.

    Check your attitude, and then you will find people who are great at the game, that actually want to play with you.
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  7. #227
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    Single worst thread I've ever seen on the official forums.
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  8. #228
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    Unironic accusations of 'demanding carries' tend to be the first and last indicator that someone's mindset is, in fact, rooted in elitism. Especially when all the poster you're talking to said is "I don't enjoy this content or the company of the type of people who play it so I don't engage in it."

    Jussayin'.
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    video games are bad

  9. #229
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    Unironic accusations of 'demanding carries' tend to be the first and last indicator that someone's mindset is, in fact, rooted in elitism. Especially when all the poster you're talking to said is "I don't enjoy this content or the company of the type of people who play it so I don't engage in it."

    Jussayin'.
    "Just Saying" is something people who don't have the backbone to stand behind their own words say; in an attempt to defer having to argue their point.
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  10. #230
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart View Post
    "Just Saying" is something people who don't have the backbone to stand behind their own words say; in an attempt to defer having to argue their point.
    not that you even tried to deny it or anything though.
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